A thread for Basschatters who have an interest in HIFI

[itu]

19 minutes ago, prowla said:

I keep thinking about connecting my Sony Walkman Pro to my system; I think it needs a service though.

D6C is a complicated unit. Try to find someone who has manuals, tools and knows latest HW updates. 

[Hellzero]

First, go there to find all data available for your turntable:

 

https://www.vinylengine.com/turntable-database.php?make=Dual&mdl=CS+505&sort=2&ascdesc=ASC&search=search&drive=any&motor=any&control=any&auto=any&changer=any

 

Then on the same website, you'll find the data available for your cartridge:

 

https://www.vinylengine.com/cartridge_database.php?m=any&mod=DN165E&t=any&sort=2&Search=Search&sty=&ovlo=&ovhi=&can=&dclo=&dchi=&stid=&masslo=&masshi=&notes=&prlo=&prhi=

 

Finally, buy a new stylus, like here:

 

https://www.audioaffair.co.uk/ortofon-dn-165e-replacement-stylus

 

[Dan Dare]

13 hours ago, bass_dinger said:

Over 40 years ago, I bought a Dual CS505 turntable, which I have used, off and on, over that time. 

 

Mrs Dinger rediscovered her record collection, and we played a few discs.  Unfortunately, the needle in the cartridge (or the stylus?) is now misaligned - instead of facing downwards, it rotated by 45 degrees to the right, and the sound is distorted.

 

Not sure how it happened (it worked when we started playing our vinyl), but it now clearly needs adjusting or replacing. 

 

Can anyone recommend a solution?  The stylus reads "Ortofon", "DUAL" and "DN165E" , here:

   

 

I have found a few possible replacements, each for £20: 

https://www.recordstylus.co.uk/shop/Record-Stylus-Needle-for-Dual-505-CS505-DN165E-DN166E-DN167-OM5-p610017647

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/303287394628?_skw=505&itmmeta=01KCYT9ENV70KJKZ5E0X8J919Q&hash=item469d566144:g:ZaMAAOxyx-BSb~bt

 

Oddly, https://www.dualfred.de/ sells everything for Dual turntables, apart from styli     

 

Before I invest, can Basschatters advise?  Do I just need the stylus, or a cartridge, or a new turntable? Might I need new belts?  Do the bearings need maintenance?

 

You can't adjust/straighten a damaged stylus. A replacement OE stylus for that cart' is around £60. I'd be leery of no-name or knock-off ones, but it's your choice. Google it and you'll find plenty. It goes without saying that you shouldn't play your vinyl if the stylus is as badly out of alignment as you state. You'll do serious damage.

 

It's worth replacing very old belts on turntables as they do stretch and even perish. If it's 40 years old, it could probably do with a drop of oil for the bearing, but enquire of the everything Dual website you refer to. 

 

 

[BigRedX]

1 hour ago, bass_dinger said:

Could you instead look at older machines, built when cassettes were a viable option for music?

 

I have an excellent Yamaha KX580, which are still available on eBay etc. Dolby B C and S, plus MPX.

 

Last time I looked at the possibility of getting a replacement, buying second-hand meant old, potentially unreliable, overpriced crap. However I've just had a look on eBay and there are some hopefully suitable machines for around the £150 mark which is probably worth it. Plus if I get all the cassettes digitised in a timely manner, I'll be able to sell it on when I'm done for hopefully what I paid for it.

[bass_dinger]

3 hours ago, Hellzero said:

First, go there to find all data available for your turntable:

 

https://www.vinylengine.com/turntable-database.php?make=Dual&mdl=CS+505&sort=2&ascdesc=ASC&search=search&drive=any&motor=any&control=any&auto=any&changer=any

 

Then on the same website, you'll find the data available for your cartridge:

 

https://www.vinylengine.com/cartridge_database.php?m=any&mod=DN165E&t=any&sort=2&Search=Search&sty=&ovlo=&ovhi=&can=&dclo=&dchi=&stid=&masslo=&masshi=&notes=&prlo=&prhi=

 

Finally, buy a new stylus, like here:

 

https://www.audioaffair.co.uk/ortofon-dn-165e-replacement-stylus

 

 

@Hellzero and @Dan Dare are my HiFi butlers - very helpful and practical advice on what I need to do next. Thanks 

 

After 40-plus years, my then-£109 turntable is probably due some maintenance.  So, my next project will be the turntable. 

 

As opposed to my next turntable being a ProJect https://www.project-audio.com/en/turntables/#primary-line

 

Edited 5 hours ago by bass_dinger
I thought of a pun!

[Matt P]

@bass_dinger  for cartridges my current sensibly priced favourite is audio technica, the vm95 range is great value and all the stylus versions fit on the same body, so you can start with the cheapest conical one and then upgrade as far as you want, I'm using the elliptical one on my nad turntable and am very pleased with it. 

 

Audio technica

 

The conical option is is about thirty quid and I think the elliptical is about fifty. 

I have generally avoided aftermarket stylii, once the supply of genuine oem options runs out I will swap to a more modern design anyway. 

 

Matt