thisisswanbon Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago 2 hours ago, krispn said: The classic question of what do you ‘need’ and are there specific tones you’re after? Are the drives too raunchy or just missing a vibe? I had the ToneHammer for a number of years and used it in AGS mode as a slightly warmer low gain drive sound and it was great in this role. It then meant some other low gain drives came alive in this gain staging role. My pedal board is basically a preamp/eq, some compression and a couple of drive pedals. I have the option to add or swap in or out a few things but ultimately for the current pub gig it’s all I really need for this gig. There’s not much room for experimenting and even using some fuzz and octave combined but it’s not quite right for the tunes we play. For this reason I’m just using the basics but they work! I flip from thinking I need more stuff then get it and it doesn’t hit the mark then go back to the basics again, think I should be making more interesting sound only for them to not work and back to the basics again… 1 hour ago, Al Krow said: A couple of ideas from me (YMMV! etc) Suggest checking out the Boss OC5 for an excellent and great value octaver? I share your pain re. drives: I've got 7 of the things sitting on my shelf which I really need to get around to moving on, haha! I found that my most recent multi (GT1000 Core) managed to match / out do them all which my cheap-as-chips Zoom B1-4 hadn't really come close to doing. But the most important thing about the GT1000 Core is the always on preamp setting, as we're not using backline, and finally getting a tone that I really like and seems to be getting plaudits from fellow BC'ers. I don’t actually think I NEED anything to be honest… half of our set is clean and the other half is synth/solo octave sound. I LOVE the rattler, but don’t really need a drive sound at the moment and the ultra wave can do a decent enough job should the need arise so feels like a waste of a spot. id always like to get more out of my clean tone, I love the idea of something more amp-like but I’ve yet to find anything that gets on with my synth patches and octave, even the AGS amp trick takes more than it gives… I appreciate the shout on the OC5 @Al Krow, but I’ve had one before and it didn’t come close to my octabvre. I’ve got a Taylor shift too but the octave isn’t working, Celeb pedals offered to repair under warranty but I find shipping to Turkey a bit daunting! I’m unfortunate in that my eyes hear digital and I struggle to move past it. The HX one is purely there for chorus and delay! Quote
Al Krow Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago 16 minutes ago, thisisswanbon said: I appreciate the shout on the OC5 @Al Krow, but I’ve had one before and it didn’t come close to my octabvre. Interesting. What were you finding the Octabvre was adding vs the OC5? Quote
thisisswanbon Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago 55 minutes ago, Al Krow said: Interesting. What were you finding the Octabvre was adding vs the OC5? Slightly more of a mid punch - but more than that there was a feel thing. Latency on the OC5 was minimal but it just wasn't as immediate as my octabvre is 1 Quote
LukeFRC Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago 2 hours ago, warwickhunt said: 12 string bass in da house so it is time to experiment! This set up us 'purely' to create the sounds needed for a Cheap Trick tribute but in the most manageable means possible. I'd like to add a bit of grit to the top end, whilst retaining punch/clarity on the bottom end. Utilising what I have (*), I'm thinking all I need is to split the signal in 2 and effect 1 of these to add a bit of grit which I can mix with a clean tone in my amp for live work, where the PA is going to have to mic my cabs. (*) I'm aware that the Tech 21 XB essentially does what I need but I'm not sure the outlay of £500+ is justified if I already own 90% of what I need. I originally had 2 lines of thought. > DI out to amp front input (full range clean signal... the sound of the 12 string) a) Bass > preamp [ > effects out > Broughton (as HPF) > Zoom (OD effect to add a bit of grit) > amp rear input (attenuated) a) gives me full range 12 string to amp front + high passed overdriven (not excessive) top end which is mixed via the rear attenuated input. Positives = only the top end as set by the HPF is effected with the Zoom. Negatives = The full range signal inc all of the top end goes through the front end of the amp. > DI out > Broughton (as LPF) > amp front input b) Bass > preamp [ > effects out > Zoom (bit of grit) > amp rear input (attenuated) b) gives me low passed signal to amp front + full range overdriven (not excessive) which is mixed via the rear attenuated input. Positives = only the bottom end, as set by the Broughton goes to the front of the amp. Negatives = The full range signal inc all of the bottom end goes through the Zoom and is overdriven before blending with the front end sound. Typing this out has made me realise that as I turn up beyond bedroom settings, version a) was going to make more sense... however! Typing this has also made me realise I likely need to get an active crossover pedal and split the signal before sending to any other pedal/input. The Rolls SX-21 seems to fit my criteria... any other options suggestions? I also 'likely' would like to have a means to DI the 2 signals to a PA if mic'ing the cab(s) wasn't feasible... I see me going back to the drawing board! LOL think a HX stomp or GT1000core might simply it? split when you want and use left/right for the two signals? Quote
pantherairsoft Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago I still need to recable this, but I’ve had a major shuffle over the last few months. I’ve also broken my ‘if it’s not on the board, it gets sold’ routine… so there are a few toys on the shelf for swapping in and out. For a long time I struggled to justify having a ‘collection’ and so I just kept making the board bigger and bigger. I’ve finally got out of that silly spiral Large board is my bass board, small board is for synth (and the space at the edge is for a Walrus Canvas Stereo LI). The big board is really two boards in one. It covers my synthy/electronica/soundscape side of things, and my prog-y Tool-esque rock stuff. Realistically, it could be two boards, but I like the option to throw in a few extra sounds here and there. I also have PT Classic 1, so might put one side of the board on the shelf for a bit given I’m not gigging at the mo and downsize the board. 4 Quote
LukeFRC Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 1 hour ago, pantherairsoft said: I’ve also broken my ‘if it’s not on the board, it gets sold’ routine… so there are a few toys on the shelf for swapping in and out. For a long time I struggled to justify having a ‘collection’ and so I just kept making the board bigger and bigger. I’ve finally got out of that silly spiral this from a man who in another thread said that he had gigged with 5 moogerfoogers! 1 Quote
tauzero Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago On 07/08/2025 at 20:17, kiat said: Fully cableless: * Powerbank powered, no mains at all * Wireless bass (signal in) * Wireless IEM system (stereo mix out to IEM earbuds) * Wireless DI (Post) to stage bass amp (signal out) What powerbank did you use? 1 Quote
warwickhunt Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 2 hours ago, LukeFRC said: think a HX stomp or GT1000core might simply it? split when you want and use left/right for the two signals? I wasn't aware the stomp or GT1000 could operate like that! So you can go in and then split the path to have one HPF and the other LPF, applying OD/grit to one channel before sending them to independent outputs? 1 Quote
tauzero Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 8 minutes ago, warwickhunt said: I wasn't aware the stomp or GT1000 could operate like that! So you can go in and then split the path to have one HPF and the other LPF, applying OD/grit to one channel before sending them to independent outputs? You can create parallel paths on the Stomp, apply EQ to each to give HPF and LPF, and recombine them at the output or send them to separate outputs. Quote
warwickhunt Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 2 minutes ago, tauzero said: You can create parallel paths on the Stomp, apply EQ to each to give HPF and LPF, and recombine them at the output or send them to separate outputs. Can you add effects to either of those paths? Also does the HX inc drives that will just add a bit of grit to top end as opposed to full blown OD? Off to research. Quote
Hugsonic Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago Even better you can split the signal by frequency on the stomp. There are youtube vids on it. Does a couple of other things too. Quote
Cuzzie Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 6 hours ago, warwickhunt said: 12 string bass in da house so it is time to experiment! This set up us 'purely' to create the sounds needed for a Cheap Trick tribute but in the most manageable means possible. I'd like to add a bit of grit to the top end, whilst retaining punch/clarity on the bottom end. Utilising what I have (*), I'm thinking all I need is to split the signal in 2 and effect 1 of these to add a bit of grit which I can mix with a clean tone in my amp for live work, where the PA is going to have to mic my cabs. (*) I'm aware that the Tech 21 XB essentially does what I need but I'm not sure the outlay of £500+ is justified if I already own 90% of what I need. I originally had 2 lines of thought. > DI out to amp front input (full range clean signal... the sound of the 12 string) a) Bass > preamp [ > effects out > Broughton (as HPF) > Zoom (OD effect to add a bit of grit) > amp rear input (attenuated) a) gives me full range 12 string to amp front + high passed overdriven (not excessive) top end which is mixed via the rear attenuated input. Positives = only the top end as set by the HPF is effected with the Zoom. Negatives = The full range signal inc all of the top end goes through the front end of the amp. > DI out > Broughton (as LPF) > amp front input b) Bass > preamp [ > effects out > Zoom (bit of grit) > amp rear input (attenuated) b) gives me low passed signal to amp front + full range overdriven (not excessive) which is mixed via the rear attenuated input. Positives = only the bottom end, as set by the Broughton goes to the front of the amp. Negatives = The full range signal inc all of the bottom end goes through the Zoom and is overdriven before blending with the front end sound. Typing this out has made me realise that as I turn up beyond bedroom settings, version a) was going to make more sense... however! Typing this has also made me realise I likely need to get an active crossover pedal and split the signal before sending to any other pedal/input. The Rolls SX-21 seems to fit my criteria... any other options suggestions? I also 'likely' would like to have a means to DI the 2 signals to a PA if mic'ing the cab(s) wasn't feasible... I see me going back to the drawing board! LOL The Tech21 DP3X pedal will give you a whole heap of crossover joy with a 12 string, throw in a MXR Bass delux Chorus which also gives you a flange option - all you need Quote
pantherairsoft Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 2 hours ago, LukeFRC said: this from a man who in another thread said that he had gigged with 5 moogerfoogers! Yeah, that was another time. The board was pretty well documented on here back then. I gigged with a board that was custom made and was strictly a 2-man lift (1.4m wide, around 50kg). it was all a bit silly really. But life led me to sell up everything (I was bass-less for 3 years), though really my entire collection was on the board to be fair. Pic of that old board for the new crowd that never saw it back in the day! Note this was only has 4 foogers, but the custom Xerograph had just taken the place of the Moog LPF... it didn't stay for long though as it struggled with the CV messages from the MP-201. There are 5-6 pedals not seen under the rear raised tier as well. That board was... fun. 5 Quote
ordep Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 1 hour ago, pantherairsoft said: I remember the day I first saw this and after that I never complained about bringing my Pedaltrain Jr board (back then) ever again. 1 Quote
pantherairsoft Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago (edited) 6 minutes ago, ordep said: I remember the day I first saw this and after that I never complained about bringing my Pedaltrain Jr board (back then) ever again. I still have nightmares—and back pain—from the memories of this board. But I do miss the Foogers. I miss the MP-201 most of all. Big big regrets about selling that. These pics are actually from a music video shoot... and it seems the old band YouTube was deleted somehow, along with it went all our music videos Edited 3 hours ago by pantherairsoft Quote
ordep Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 42 minutes ago, pantherairsoft said: I still have nightmares—and back pain—from the memories of this board. But I do miss the Foogers. I miss the MP-201 most of all. Big big regrets about selling that. These pics are actually from a music video shoot... and it seems the old band YouTube was deleted somehow, along with it went all our music videos Oh I remember that vid as well, with the Roscoe, EBS, Barefaced and this board. A treat for the eyes and ears. 👍🏼 1 Quote
pantherairsoft Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 26 minutes ago, ordep said: Oh I remember that vid as well, with the Roscoe, EBS, Barefaced and this board. A treat for the eyes and ears. 👍🏼 Yeah, it was fun. My Roscoe at the time was a natural finish, so Mark at Bass Direct loaned the Candy Apple Red one he had in stock so it looked bling in the video. Im going to dig into old hard drives next week to see if any of the old vids are out there! 1 Quote
warwickhunt Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 3 hours ago, Cuzzie said: The Tech21 DP3X pedal will give you a whole heap of crossover joy with a 12 string, throw in a MXR Bass delux Chorus which also gives you a flange option - all you need Sadly I'm not sure I can justify £500+ for that pedal when I own gear that does 90% of what it does... if I can get the other 10% for £150. Quote
Cuzzie Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 11 minutes ago, warwickhunt said: Sadly I'm not sure I can justify £500+ for that pedal when I own gear that does 90% of what it does... if I can get the other 10% for £150. It’s only £500 if you are buying 2 of the DP3x pedals - chorus was an optional extra! If you are nearly all the way there, then its all gravy, you can get a chorus effect by tuning the octave strings slightly off from whatever you tune your fundamental to Quote
kiat Posted 54 minutes ago Posted 54 minutes ago 5 hours ago, tauzero said: What powerbank did you use? This one - https://www.thomann.co.uk/harley_benton_powerplant_powerbank_mk2.htm It has powered my board for well over 8 hours... Quote
Al Krow Posted 15 minutes ago Posted 15 minutes ago Speaking of massive pedal boards the Fratellis bassist clearly had one! What do folk reckon he's using to get the funky filter / delay sound at the start of the track and on the verses? He seems to kick just one pedal on to engage the effect. Quote
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