Peter Hook - Great Bassist for sure
He had his own style which was certainly influential so the lack of “technical chops” or formal musical education becomes moot
New Order already had a reputation (career) before “Blue Monday”
I think I was 11 years old when I purchased the 12” single of “Blue Monday” and I already owned Joy Division records ( as did Dad)
I can’t think of a more influential band in the New Zealand indie music scene than Joy Division