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[quote name='JTUK' timestamp='1419284234' post='2638418']


Really like him, but not so sure he would be placed in that very select few who inspired so so many.
I mean VH started a whole gtr playing style all on his own.... and Hendrix just blew everyone away.
Beck is Beck and still unique after all these years... so not quite sure I would put SRV in that league
myself... Others might but I don't think he stands side by side with the most influential Gtrs of the last 50
in a top 5 or so..???
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I would say that SRV inspired countless players but was perhaps not quite as original as the other three, maybe more the sum of his influences where there wasn’t really anyone like Hendrix, Beck & VH before they appeared seemingly out of nowhere!

However, he was undeniably s*** hot and I would say certainly ‘in the same league’. Probably my four favourite guitar players…

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[quote name='waynepunkdude' timestamp='1419285134' post='2638434']
As far as Rock and Roll stars go, I know he isn't everyone's cup 'o tea but Jack White is IMO the rock star of my generation.[/quote]

I like Jack White. Not from my generation, however I'll give him respect for being super entertaining and an innovator. However IMO he's not a guitar hero, neither is Frank Zappa or Jerry Garcia.

Blue

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[quote name='blue' timestamp='1419290657' post='2638528']


I like Jack White. Not from my generation, however I'll give him respect for being super entertaining and an innovator. However IMO he's not a guitar hero, neither is Frank Zappa or Jerry Garcia.

Blue
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That's subjective.

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[quote name='peteb' timestamp='1419285224' post='2638436']
I would say that SRV inspired countless players but was perhaps not quite as original as the other three, maybe more the sum of his influences where there wasn’t really anyone like Hendrix, Beck & VH before they appeared seemingly out of nowhere!

However, he was undeniably s*** hot and I would say certainly ‘in the same league’. Probably my four favourite guitar players…
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Agreed, I'm coming from the same place on SRV.

Over here he did a Public TV Special with Albert King that was smoking hot and funny. Albert liked Stevie, but Albert was treating him like a student and rightly so.

Blue

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[quote name='waynepunkdude' timestamp='1419290803' post='2638533']
That's subjective.
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True, that's why I stated IMO. Back in the 70's all the young guitarist I knew were studying Hendrix, Page, Beck, Clapton and All the Kings (BB,Albert & Freddy) not Zappa or Garcia.

Don't get me wrong, there were some things that Zappa did that I consider pure genius.

Blue

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[quote name='blue' timestamp='1419191933' post='2637465']
I don't think it's just age or the music we play it's a lot of things. Some of it could be regional or cultural. Remember our BL and front person is a 29 year old female. Believe it or not she is the one against doing the more contemporary stuff. It's her band and she's be successful with this same band locally for the past 9 years. The goal was to be a good paid gig bar band and that's what we are.

We have carved out a nice niche which allowed us to play 65-70 shows this year, which is more than a lot of bands that want to do paid gigs can say. So were not really looking to appeal to the under 25, nor do we care if they relate to us. They are not our target market. I'm sure when they walk in and see all the grey hair they are just like I was when I was young, [i]"let's get out of here".[/i]Our bread and butter is with a very loyal appreciative 50 + crowd.[/quote]

Blue, nice to see you've found a forum that's a bit more congenial to you than that other place, and that you're still evolving musically and in projecting a sense of humor into your posts. If you really would like to go on the road, best of luck making that happen. I'd bet that blowing off the under-30 market won't be such a good strategy at that point though.

What's it like for me? Massively moving playing field, with players my age dying off, retiring from music, or conversely, retiring from day jobs and having more time for music, venue ownership changing hands and doors also opening and closing for all sorts of other reasons. I took this year off from gigging and waited to see when the phone would start ringing. When it eventually did, I found myself much better at saying no to lowballs and same-olds. Right now I have two solid opportunities at doing originals enough that local venues pay good money for. I helped both acts get going years ago, moved along to better paying or more musically satisfying gigs for several years, and was very happy to find that both acts make good money now and have matured musically quite a bit. Never too late to grow up, I guess.

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[quote name='Passinwind' timestamp='1419297245' post='2638580']
Blue, nice to see you've found a forum that's a bit more congenial to you than that other place, and that you're still evolving musically and in projecting a sense of humor into your posts. If you really would like to go on the road, best of luck making that happen. I'd bet that blowing off the under-30 market won't be such a good strategy at that point though.[/quote]


Good luck on the 2 solid projects you have on the radar. Finding good solid projects no matter where you are is just a nightmare for a lot of guys right now.

Thanks, the guys on this site are not as sensitive and allow everyone here to have their own opinion. Plus IMO the folks on this forum are more well versed on issues pertaining to Pub gigging.

There really isn't a [i]"under 30 strategy"[/i]. For this band and the genre we play, it just happens to resonate for the most part with the 50 and up crowd.They are responsive and appreciative.The under 30 crowd around here is not interested. And it's not just blues/rock their not interested in. There not interested in any type of live rock. That's my opinion.

If I ever go on the road, the money has to be right, the organization has to be made up of good people. The genre isn't a deal breaker for me nor is age of the audience. I play for anyone that's into it.

Speaking of Pub/Bar/Club gigging, I thought our band was struggling at our Saturday night gig, Then I get this e-mail from our BL today. They re-booked us for.

May 3rd
July 5th
Oct 18th
All Sundays..3-7

Go figure?

Blue

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[quote name='blue' timestamp='1418945345' post='2635204']


You nailed it, most of our passions lie in what was happening when we were growing up. I was 10 years old when all those British bands came to the US and not only gave us great new exciting sounds they also brought our attention to our own American music.

Unfortunately us Baby Boomers are always going to win the argument with a simple where are your;[list]
[*]Lennon & McCartney's
[*]Beatles
[*]Stones (are there any bands from the 80s or 90s still filling stadiums)
[*]Mick Jaggers
[*]James Browns
[*]Aretha Franklins
[*]Al Greens
[*]Carol Kings
[*]Laura Nyros
[/list]
On an on and on.

Sorry for the old guy rant, but these facts are tough to argue.

Blue
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Amazing artists from an amazing time in the development of popular/rock n roll music for sure - love 'em.

But they did all have the good fortune to have been around where signed artists were allowed to grow and develop over a period of years and albums, in a much smaller world regarding media outlets.
By the time we got to the '90s, the music industry was a much slicker self serving machine that murdered bands with potential after an album if it didn't sell "X" amount. There wasn't as much risk taking or patience with artists by then.
How many budding great artists disappeared into obscurity before they could creatively come of age? How many did we never even discover?


(Sorry if this has been covered already, I'm only on page 2 of this thread.. :) )

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[quote name='blue' timestamp='1419307004' post='2638598']


There really isn't a [i]"under 30 strategy"[/i]. For this band and the genre we play, it just happens to resonate for the most part with the 50 and up crowd.They are responsive and appreciative.The under 30 crowd around here is not interested. And it's not just blues/rock their not interested in. There not interested in any type of live rock. That's my opinion.

Blue
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Could down to geography there Blue.
I live in South Wales here in the UK and around my area a Rock covers band with a good rep will still fill a pub easy and fill it with both younger and older people together.
Sometimes a good band is the only reason some people will actually go to the pub, as it's too expensive here for most to go down the pub to socialise on a regular basis anymore.

(In my humble experienced opinion :-D )

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[quote name='blue' timestamp='1419291053' post='2638535']
True, that's why I stated IMO. Back in the 70's all the young guitarist I knew were studying Hendrix, Page, Beck, Clapton and All the Kings (BB,Albert & Freddy) not Zappa or Garcia.

Don't get me wrong, there were some things that Zappa did that I consider pure genius.

Blue
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Jack White isn't the most technical player in the world but the man puts 100% into every song, he plays so free, he may miss a few notes here and there but he makes up for that in pure energy.

This cover sums him up for me, I think he is my guitar hero.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kS60oTRxh0g

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[quote name='peteb' timestamp='1419285224' post='2638436']
I would say that SRV inspired countless players but was perhaps not quite as original as the other three, maybe more the sum of his influences where there wasn’t really anyone like Hendrix, Beck & VH before they appeared seemingly out of nowhere!

However, he was undeniably s*** hot and I would say certainly ‘in the same league’. Probably my four favourite guitar players…
[/quote]

Yes, thinking about it you (and the others saying the same thing) are probably right. SRV was brilliant, with great feel, and technique, but not really ground breaking or revolutionary so I'll withdraw my nomination for the list (Still bloody good to listen to and learn from though).

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Some more 'modern' guitarists...

Slash - not particularly innovative but certainly inspirational
Jonny Marr
Matt Bellamy

The last two are certainly innovative

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[quote name='miles'tone' timestamp='1419311577' post='2638602']
Amazing artists from an amazing time in the development of popular/rock n roll music for sure - love 'em.

But they did all have the good fortune to have been around where signed artists were allowed to grow and develop over a period of years and albums, in a much smaller world regarding media outlets.
By the time we got to the '90s, the music industry was a much slicker self serving machine that murdered bands with potential after an album if it didn't sell "X" amount. There wasn't as much risk taking or patience with artists by then.
How many budding great artists disappeared into obscurity before they could creatively come of age? How many did we never even discover?


(Sorry if this has been covered already, I'm only on page 2 of this thread.. :) )
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Good point, it's something I never thought about. Certainly makes sense.

I also think that because the artists I listed had time and support from the label to develop and grow, it allowed the fans to watch these bands grow and evolve to full potential. For example [i]Meet The Beatles[/i] is quite different from say [i]Revolver[/i].

Yes, the other issue is how much help did these bands have at the time. State of the art production and the best arrangers, producers and technicians.

Blue

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[quote name='Count Bassy' timestamp='1419338638' post='2638869']


Yes, thinking about it you (and the others saying the same thing) are probably right. SRV was brilliant, with great feel, and technique, but not really ground breaking or revolutionary so I'll withdraw my nomination for the list (Still bloody good to listen to and learn from though).
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Actually, what I was trying to say was that even though he wasn't as massively ground breaking or revolutionary as the others I would still nominate him for inclusion on that list, just because he was so incredibly f***in good...!

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Another thing about being 60 + and still in the game for me.I have been substance free for over 30 years. Everything is a lot clearer and a lot more fun.

Things like song choice by BLs ( I play plenty of songs I don't really care for and I make the best of it ) or drummers inconsistent tempo no longer bug me. Just play the best bass you can, you have control over that. You really can't control that drummer.

Blue

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[quote name='yorks5stringer' timestamp='1419600475' post='2641168']
Right , now I can join in this thread as I'm 60 today!

TBH it's sh*t, no gig and not one till NYE. Not sure I'm going to like my 60's.....!
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Happy Birthday!!!

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[quote name='yorks5stringer' timestamp='1419600475' post='2641168']
Right , now I can join in this thread as I'm 60 today!

TBH it's sh*t, no gig and not one till NYE. Not sure I'm going to like my 60's.....!
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Being in my 60s has been great musically and gig wise, playing more than ever. Musically your 60s should be anything you want it to be.

Blue

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[quote name='dadofsix' timestamp='1419651918' post='2641632']
I'm delighted to say that I'm technically not yet old enough to participate in this discussion. lol
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You can participate, it's just that there are some specific issues that impact the gigging musician over 60 more than some of the younger guys.

Peace

Blue

Why the pic? Just a cool pic of my Gibson LP Gold Top. :D

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