icastle Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 [quote name='MiltyG565' timestamp='1368449641' post='2077142'] You mean that you don't have the power to say whatever you want? I certainly do. [/quote] Only if you are given a platform to express yourself on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karlfer Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 (edited) [quote name='icastle' timestamp='1368449898' post='2077150'] Only if you are given a platform to express yourself on. [/quote] So if the BNP (other political parties are available, thankfully) get a platform in a public place they can say whatever they want(Sorry icastle, not aimed at you). For crying out loud. Milty is it just you always want the last word? Meanwhile, [size=5]WELCOME GUY, brilliant to have you on Basschat. [/size] Edited May 13, 2013 by karlfer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charic Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 [quote name='icastle' timestamp='1368449898' post='2077150'] Only if you are given a platform to express yourself on. [/quote] Last time we gave YOU a platform to express yourself on you scarred Dood for life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tauzero Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 [quote name='MiltyG565' timestamp='1368449641' post='2077142'] You mean that you don't have the power to say whatever you want? I certainly do. [/quote] If that were true then Peter Carter-Ruck would have to make his living in more socially acceptable ways, such as clubbing baby seals or selling crack to schoolchildren. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jezzaboy Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 Here is my bit of freedom of speech. Anyone remember the good old days when we used to talk about all aspects of PLAYING THE BASS on here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiltyG565 Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 [quote name='karlfer' timestamp='1368450277' post='2077164'] So if the BNP (other political parties are available, thankfully) get a platform in a public place they can say whatever they want. For crying out loud. Milty is just you alays want the last word? Meanwhile, [size=5]WELCOME GUY, brilliant to have you on Basschat. ([size=4]Sorry icastle not aimed at you)[/size][/size] [/quote] Anybody can say what they want. It might be illegal, but they can still say it. If they are arrested and go to trial because of what they said, they can use their words again to try and get out of it. Nobody can ever mandate that there are things you can't say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skankdelvar Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 (edited) One may certainly possess the [i]ability [/i]to say whatever one wants. But the [i]right [/i]to do so is nowhere enshrined in law. In the sense that rights are protected freedoms, there is no blanket protection, merely a list - if you like - of things one may [i]not[/i] say or which may not be said in a particular way. Every so often, they add to the list. Conventionally, freedom of speech means the right to promote certain political or social opinions without the fear of the secret police slinging one into a torture chamber. Here on BC, however, it is held by some to be the freedom to say any damn stupid, rude or 'abrasive' thing then hide behind a half-comprehended phrase one heard in a pub. In any event, this whole 'freedom' thing is drastically over-rated and usually comes up in connexion with silly things like reheated internet spats and - er - unsanctioned invasions of Mid-Eastern countries. In any event, Mr P has popped his head back up and we should treat him like any other member; that is, with politeness, humour and not too much attention to his daily movements, breakfast cereal of choice etc. It could get a bit wearing for him. [quote name='tauzero' timestamp='1368450318' post='2077167'] If that were true then Peter Carter-Ruck would have to make his living in more socially acceptable ways, such as clubbing baby seals or selling crack to schoolchildren. [/quote] He's dead. Dead as a***holes. Edited May 13, 2013 by charic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiltyG565 Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 [quote name='jezzaboy' timestamp='1368450426' post='2077171'] Here is my bit of freedom of speech. Anyone remember the good old days when we used to talk about all aspects of PLAYING THE BASS on here. [/quote] This is the introductions forum. Most of these threads are just kind of "Hello, welcome, that's a nice bass you have". Anyway, I think I might go to sleep now and give my keyboard a break. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiltyG565 Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 [quote name='skankdelvar' timestamp='1368450634' post='2077176'] One may certainly possess the [i]ability [/i]to say whatever one wants. But the [i]right [/i]to do so is nowhere enshrined in law. In the sense that rights are protected freedoms, there is no blanket protection, merely a list - if you like - of things one may [i]not[/i] say or which may not be said in a particular way. Every so often, they add to the list. Conventionally, freedom of speech means the right to promote certain political or social opinions without the fear of the secret police slinging one into a torture chamber. Here on BC, however, it is held by some to be the freedom to say any damn stupid, rude or 'abrasive' thing then hide behind a half-comprehended phrase one heard in a pub. In any event, this whole 'freedom' thing is drastically over-rated and usually comes up in connexion with silly things like reheated internet spats and - er - unsanctioned invasions of Mid-Eastern countries. In any event, Mr P has popped his head back up and we should treat him like any other member; that is, with politeness, humour and not too much attention to his daily movements, breakfast cereal of choice etc. It could get a bit wearing for him. [/quote] I completely agree. You can still say those things, which you aren't supposed to say, if you want, much like you can steal a TV from somebodies house, if you want. I'm not saying it's a good or right thing to do, and most laws being sensible and good for the majority, the people who break them just be dealt with. I also agree that we shouldn't give Guy too much scrutiny. He's a bassist, we are bassists, and that's the level we are all working at, so let's treat everybody with dignity, and respect, regardless of experience, fame, or financial worth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Vader Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 [quote name='icastle' timestamp='1368444752' post='2077046'] What? [/quote] You heard me.... Wheelbarrow, yoghurt, it's that simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karlfer Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 As ever Skank, the true voice of reason. I wonder who would have missed you most, The Diplomatic Corps or the stand up circuit I'm off to look at gear porn. There are two people on this site whose self opinionated, condescending, "I'm right, if you disagree you must bow to my superior intellect" diatribes are getting right on my tits and have been for a few weeks. Meanwhile, [size=5]Welcome Guy, it's a privelege to have you here and joining in.[/size] Karl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouMa Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 I just think its really nice of the man to make the effort to come on here,im sure he has better things to do. Has anyone mentioned Guys father Mike,he was a fantastic actor and a fantastic song writer aswell. He worked with my alter ego Peter Wyngarde in Jason King so this is a bit of a double whammy for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icastle Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 [quote name='charic' timestamp='1368450306' post='2077166'] Last time we gave YOU a platform to express yourself on you scarred Dood for life [/quote] That was an accident and I did change his dressings when the local witch was too drunk to do it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icastle Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 [quote name='Dave Vader' timestamp='1368451327' post='2077189'] You heard me.... Wheelbarrow, yoghurt, it's that simple. [/quote] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ezbass Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 [quote name='Norris' timestamp='1368445941' post='2077069'] This thread stole a little of the BC magic away for me [/quote]I agree. There are some, it seems, who prefer to cause trouble rather than embrace the warm fuzziness of being a bass player contributing to a shared interest in a friendly manner. Sad really Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jezzaboy Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 Agree with you 100% Ezbass. I have just learned how to use the Ignore function of the website and feel a lot better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 And on that note, I think this is probably as good a time as any to bid a cheerful good-night to this particular saga. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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