MiltyG565 Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 [quote name='Count Bassy' timestamp='1355928913' post='1904593'] Ah, but he would have considered it a compliment! Also, not read the whole thread, but while some buyers make very low offers, some sellers try it on by knowingly asking ridiculously high prices (perhaps not on BC, but in the wider world). [/quote] NOOO! i was deliberately NOT responding to that This is just going to turn into a thread about how Hitler lowballed the jews! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_Stu Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 Well .......... graphs actually, lots of them - and some statistics wouldn't go amiss either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheddatom Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 (edited) Edited December 19, 2012 by cheddatom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiltyG565 Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 (edited) [quote name='cheddatom' timestamp='1355932222' post='1904670'] [/quote] Ah that's great, so lowballers are actually LEAST like Hitler? wow! That's a revelation! EDIT- ER DURR! I read it wrong, but if you offer is crazy low, then it has the same fascist tendency as a particularly high offer. Hey, it's just what the graph says Edited December 19, 2012 by MiltyG565 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_Stu Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 Not got any of them kind with all the circles that Venn Morrison invented? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iconic Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 definition of a lowballer:- [b][i]Knows the cost of everything and the value of nothing[/i][/b] [b][i]and usually ends up with a POS![/i][/b] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheddatom Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 [quote name='iconic' timestamp='1355932952' post='1904683'] definition of a lowballer[b][i]...[/i][/b] [/quote] Is defined by the lowly-balled, surely! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conan Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 [quote name='cheddatom' timestamp='1355932222' post='1904670'] [/quote]Brilliant! Wish I knew how to do that... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamfist Posted December 20, 2012 Author Share Posted December 20, 2012 I so wish I knew how to finish a thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike257 Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 There's only one thing missing from this thread now..... [quote name='Big_Stu' timestamp='1355849046' post='1903631'] While collecting it yesterday they spotted another bit of gear which had been gathering dust, made an offer for it which I accepted & apparently after being recovered it's going to a guy who has been discussed on this forum many, many times. [/quote] TIM? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karlfer Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 Sometimes it's not surprising there are lowball offers. Fenix Jazz bass out at £800 , 75 RI CIJ Jazz valued at £800, Warwick out at £800 when the last one of that model went for £475. One of these I would very much like to buy. It has been up over 1.5 weeks with very little interest. It has even been suggested (on another forum) the neck has been replaced. I won't pay more than £600, but I won't lowball the chap. His current over valuation (in my opinion) is costing him a sale, and me sleepless nights. You know how it is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamfist Posted December 26, 2012 Author Share Posted December 26, 2012 [quote name='karlfer' timestamp='1356499917' post='1910553'] Sometimes it's not surprising there are lowball offers. Fenix Jazz bass out at £800 , 75 RI CIJ Jazz valued at £800, Warwick out at £800 when the last one of that model went for £475. One of these I would very much like to buy. It has been up over 1.5 weeks with very little interest. It has even been suggested (on another forum) the neck has been replaced. I won't pay more than £600, but I won't lowball the chap. His current over valuation (in my opinion) is costing him a sale, and me sleepless nights. You know how it is [/quote] Lets hope he ... 1/ reads this 2/ works out that you are referring to him and....... 3/ realistically re-assesses the worth of his instrument Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mart Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 [quote name='hamfist' timestamp='1356508215' post='1910558'] Lets hope he ... 1/ reads this 2/ works out that you are referring to him and....... 3/ realistically re-assesses the worth of his instrument [/quote] Or ... get someone else to put a really low offer in - £200 or something - so that he'll then be naturally drawn to a thread about lowballing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karlfer Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 [quote name='mart' timestamp='1356531013' post='1910798'] Or ... get someone else to put a really low offer in - £200 or something - so that he'll then be naturally drawn to a thread about lowballing! [/quote] Nah, new member, just joined up to sell his bass, no other input at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenny_Innie Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 It's just business. Nothing else. No emotion involved. Say yes. Say no. Or say maybe. That's all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FuNkShUi Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 Im with you. No need to get butt hurt over it. Dont want to accept? Say no. Move on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conan Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 [quote name='Jenny_Innie' timestamp='1429773836' post='2754690'] It's just business. Nothing else. No emotion involved. Say yes. Say no. Or say maybe. That's all. [/quote] In theory, yes - but some people [b][i]do[/i][/b] develop an emotional attachment to certain items of gear. I've even done it myself at times... Then it can be difficult when some one is trying to tell you how much your pride and joy is really worth... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conan Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 [quote name='karlfer' timestamp='1356499917' post='1910553'] Sometimes it's not surprising there are lowball offers. Fenix Jazz bass out at £800 , 75 RI CIJ Jazz valued at £800, Warwick out at £800 when the last one of that model went for £475. I won't pay more than £600, but I won't lowball the chap. [/quote] I have no problem in PMing someone and (politely) letting them know how much I think their item is worth (and explaining where I have got that valuation from). Whether they choose to use this information is, of course, up to them - but it has brought positive results in a number of cases (i.e. they get a sale and I, or someone else, gets the item at a decent price). I usually find that negotiation is fairly painless, as long as you don't open up with "you want [i][b]how[/b][/i] much?!?!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cameronj279 Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 I don't mind being offered a certain amount of money for something even if it is too low.The only time I've got a little bit irritated was when I was offered several (7) different basses as part of a trade when many of the basses were £4/500 below the value of what I was selling and included basses I said in my ad I had definitely no interest in. even then, I politely said no thanks. I would also have no issue with someone pm'ing me to make me aware I had overpriced something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lw. Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 Wow - zombie thread! People often start asking WAY too much for some stuff so it only seems fair that others offer way too little. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ras52 Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 [quote name='cheddatom' timestamp='1355932222' post='1904670'] [/quote] OK..... I haven't read all of this thread. Or even most of it. But the question that burns in my head, what is a facist? Is it someone who discriminates between basses on the basis of their exotic wood facings (or absence thereof)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kempy535 Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 I don't see an issue with low ball offers. People are only prepared to pay what they think something is worth. If I am selling something id rather receive low offers than none at all. It might make me think that the item is over priced and adjust accordingly or that i have written a bad advert. Its not personal just business Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheddatom Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 I was once asked to get my low ball offer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skankdelvar Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 [quote name='cheddatom' timestamp='1429786290' post='2754895'] I was once asked to get my low ball offer [/quote] It's the gentlemanly thing to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 You can get a brand new Hofner icon violin bass off Thomann for about £20 less than half the sellers on ebay are asking for a second hander...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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