Ancient Mariner Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 I used to run a processor ALL the time for guitar, having assembled a complex set of patches combining chorus, compression, reverbs, delays, drives etc. It's really handy to turn up with an instrument, amp and board, plug 2 items in to the mains and use 2 cables to connect up, knowing that all your sounds will be exactly as they always were, just diddling the amp a little to trim for the environment. If you're prepared to take the time to design patches fro scratch and you're happy with the un-effected signals sound then it should be adjustable to do what you want for live use. Eventually I moved to separate pedals because there were other changes in my rig and the environments I was playing in, and the processor no longer met what my ears demanded. I've used my B2.1u a couple of times playing bass in church, and was pleased with the tones it produced, even just using a couple of the presets without any adjustment except to the amp. I'm also a little 'on the edge' about grabbing one of these, but there's other things I'd rather spend the money on, plus this is a big piece of kit and I already have a couple of large processors, the B2.1u, a Behringer X-V amp, pedalboard etc etc laying around taking up space. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lurksalot Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 Don't buy it just because it a bargain , buy it if you'll use it , and I have to say it is VERY useable. [quote name='lefrash' timestamp='1353704245' post='1877763'] is whether or not I have the option to constantly run a dry bass line signal. theres plenty outputs and no doubt I can do it via the 2 XLR outs, but I was hoping I could run a single line into my amp, [/quote] This can certainly be done using the Mono XLR channel , with the pre - effects button activated , you could probably have a cable adaptor to jack for the amp . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shockwave Posted November 24, 2012 Author Share Posted November 24, 2012 Eh, decided its not for me unfortunately. Now up for sale. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbytodd Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 tonight i ran it straight into our mixer and found that even with the -db button pressed the signal was still way too hot for the desk.so ive orderd a -20db attenuator to see if that helps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gafbass02 Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 Silly question but does the little volume pot on the back help reduce it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winterfire666 Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 I used to have one when they first came out and didnt really use it so it got sold. Anyway im in a different band with only 1 guitarist now so i thought at that price its worth another go. Through my old rig ( swr workingpro700, goliath 3,big ben) the eff3cts never seemed to cut through the mix but now with my barefaced s12t/rh750 setup it is detailed and clear. I used it in rehearsal yesterday, the signal is lovely and clean and the overall sound is easy enough to tweak on the fly. Im not really a big user of effects but its so handy to have everything i could need in one box. Definitely a keeper for me. And that z control on the pedal is genius. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbytodd Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 yes the volume knob does work buti had to almost turn the volume off to got the signal low enough for the pa.then it was to weak for the powered monitor i was using Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ancient Mariner Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 Maybe you need to plug it into a line in port on the mixer, rather than a mic input, or perhaps there's a switch that can change channel level settings from mic to line in? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lefrash Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 Got this this afternoon, and tried it for half an hour (via headphones and with a sh*tt*r of a bass) and my first thoughts are digital processing has come ALONG way since I last delved into multi FX 15 years ago! And it looks complicated! I've sat it down for a bit to have my tea and have a gander through the manual, but first impressions are very good! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BassTractor Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 [quote name='Shockwave' timestamp='1353800537' post='1878659'] Eh, decided its not for me unfortunately. Now up for sale. [/quote] Hey Shock, Could you say more 'bout that? I'm convinced it's interesting to others. best, bert Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lefrash Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 Another update. After another hour of playing about with tonight (and a look through the manual lastnight) I'm getting to grips with this. I've realised that using it in 'play' mode is the best option, as I can then set up a set of 4 patches which I'l use most of the time. Then have an other bank with another 4 unusual sounds. A nice touch is that I can set up a clean tone on the first patch, but then have the Z-pedal set up to increase gain, meaning that its just a twist of the pedal and I get a more driven sound without using a new patch. Still not used it through my amp yet, but I think just a touch of tweaking of the patches I've made should be enough. A few pointers for people who are humming and hawing on pulling the plunger on this: 1: the big muff sounds great. Very thick and lots of bottom end. 2: Its pretty nice as a modeller too. Some of the amp models are very good! 3: The whole unit is rock solid, pretty heavy and seems to be built like a tank (including the expression pedal) 4: the Z-pedal is very usable, not just a gimmick. 5: Its actually pretty easy to navigate once you get passed the initial confusion (which might be just me, being a complete multifx newbie) 6: All the sounds have the possibility to mix in a dry signal so if its set up correctly, theres no loss of bottom end (once again this might be standard in fx units, i dont know) 7: aslong as you dont lob it down a flight of steps theres not much of a chance you're going to lose any money on it! There you go, 7 reasons to get one! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BassTractor Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 (edited) [quote name='lefrash' timestamp='1354041609' post='1881347'] Another update. [/quote] Thanks lefrash! You expressed what I couldn't. ...but if I could've expressed it, then of course I could've expressed it a lot better. Me, I couldn't hear the difference between the real seventies big muff in my head and this emulation. Then again, I reckon it's the single most easily emulated effect, seeing as we're talking sum and difference frequencies, or what those are called in foreignish. best, bert Edited November 27, 2012 by BassTractor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shockwave Posted November 29, 2012 Author Share Posted November 29, 2012 [quote name='BassTractor' timestamp='1353958929' post='1880301'] Hey Shock, Could you say more 'bout that? I'm convinced it's interesting to others. best, bert [/quote] I just havent got the time to work it out! Wouldnt mind a guitar multi effect though cause I could really use one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benplaysbass Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 Looks like GAK have them back in again at the same price, still not got my hands on mine yet. She says its for Christmas there for cannot have it until then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ancient Mariner Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 It was OOS yesterday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mudpup Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 99 quid at DV247 now too! Bargaintastic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lefrash Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 couldnt have been up to normal price for long with GAK. its £99 quid with them too! I mean, that is a ridiculous price! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ancient Mariner Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 Agreed - amost on the point of biting! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mudpup Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 [quote name='Ancient Mariner' timestamp='1355179236' post='1895206'] Agreed - amost on the point of biting! [/quote] Do it! You know you want to and theyll be gone soon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mudpup Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 And no, i dont work for them before anyone asks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ancient Mariner Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 TBH I would rather buy a bunch of those tiny Mooer pedals for the same money except that this would be useful for recording all sorts of stuff (including guitar). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRBboy Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 Well hopefully Santa will be leaving one under the tree..... It remains to be seen whether I'll get on with it and use it regularly or not. Provided the compressors and drive sounds are good, it could feasibly replace everything else! Already planning what patches I'm gonna set up! I think the "z" expression pedal could be quite useful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lefrash Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 I'm finding the OD sounds pretty good. Not really had to dial in more than one type of OD, but it sounds organic and non-digital. No loss in bottom end either (as long as you set it up ok). At the moment my main tone is completely clean, but with the pedal as a OD blend, so I;ve got full control exactly how much drive I use at any point. and then the Z pedal as a high gain blend (for the real high gain bits. Really nice touch that Z pedal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dood Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 Is it possible, like the B3 to mix in a clean blend to each affect and a global clean blend to the whole signal path? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaybass 70 Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 Hi guys, is anyone using the Librarian software to edit patches, I cant get it to work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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