discreet Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 By request, and following on from the the Chris Squire [i]Roundabout [/i]isolation I post this Entwistle [i]Won't Get Fooled Again[/i] Isolation... interesting! Maybe we should have a proper 'isolation' thread or something... [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rf6tp2c6nMM"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rf6tp2c6nMM[/url] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wateroftyne Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 [quote name='discreet' timestamp='1335643827' post='1634247'] Maybe we should have a proper 'isolation' thread or something... [/quote] [url="http://basschat.co.uk/topic/34275-isolated-bass-tracks/"]Knock yersel' oot....[/url] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discreet Posted April 28, 2012 Author Share Posted April 28, 2012 (edited) [quote name='wateroftyne' timestamp='1335644312' post='1634250'] [url="http://basschat.co.uk/topic/34275-isolated-bass-tracks/"]Knock yersel' oot....[/url] [/quote] Ha! Rule One... Try searching the bloody forum, first! Thanks for that... maybe a mod could bung this in there?? Ta! Edit: A lot of the vids in the isolation thread don't seem to be available? Edited April 28, 2012 by discreet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musky Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 [quote name='discreet' timestamp='1335644382' post='1634251'] Edit: A lot of the vids in the isolation thread don't seem to be available? [/quote] Yeah, the rights holders aren't always too happy about them being uploaded to Youtube. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTUK Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 Pointless isolating anything by Entwhistle if you wanted to rip the line as he makes it all up as he goes along. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Jack Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 I do like the way he has hand-cream dispensers mounted on his mic-stand ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coilte Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 Looking at his fretting hand, he seems to throw all the "rules" of technique technique out of the window. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discreet Posted April 29, 2012 Author Share Posted April 29, 2012 [quote name='Coilte' timestamp='1335700002' post='1634666'] Looking at his fretting hand, he seems to throw all the "rules" of technique technique out of the window. [/quote] Yes, but I happen to think 'technique technique' is vastly overrated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lozz196 Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 Great - both the playing and the sound. Don`t think The Ox would have made it in many bands with his style, but it sure did suit The Who, awesome! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coilte Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 [quote name='discreet' timestamp='1335710181' post='1634824'] Yes, but I happen to think 'technique technique' is vastly overrated. [/quote] That was my point to a degree, i.e. it is up to everyone to find their own technique. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discreet Posted April 29, 2012 Author Share Posted April 29, 2012 [quote name='Coilte' timestamp='1335717116' post='1634941'] That was my point to a degree, i.e. it is up to everyone to find their own technique. [/quote] Yes I know, I was pretending not to understand again, sorry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmo Valdemar Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 (edited) I his technique allows him to play that way, to come up with those wonderful runs and fills (not to mention that incredible tone), I would say his technique is pretty much spot-on. Edited April 29, 2012 by Cosmo Valdemar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gelfin Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 [quote name='JTUK' timestamp='1335696543' post='1634615'] Pointless isolating anything by Entwhistle if you wanted to rip the line as he makes it all up as he goes along. [/quote] +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EssentialTension Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 [quote name='discreet' timestamp='1335710181' post='1634824'] Yes, but I happen to think 'technique technique' is vastly overrated. [/quote] Usually vastly overrated by people who don't have it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Foxen Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 Being a pioneer kinda means you have to make up the technique as you go along. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chardbass Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 I imagine an isolated track from Geddy Lee would sound very similar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4 Strings Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 [quote name='chardbass' timestamp='1335737837' post='1635365'] I imagine an isolated track from Geddy Lee would sound very similar. [/quote] erm... no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4 Strings Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 I think his technique is amazing. He mastered 4 fingers on his right hand, nothing wrong with his left, even uprighters swap things around to suit positioning, laziness, feel etc. Much as I admire Pino, he's about as exciting as a cold fried egg in The Who. One of the few times I don't watch the bass player. Years ago, when my lads were a bit younger, their band at the time were having one of those wonderfully healthy music discussions and one was showing a 9 minute solo by Slash. Fortunately my lads were not too impressed (chip of the ol' block, clearly) and people were getting bored after 2-3 minutes so I did what I shouldn't and got involved. I played this clip from the 'Kids Are Alright' dvd, 8 minutes of isolated Ox. Their friends were transfixed through the whole 8 minutes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTUK Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 [quote name='EssentialTension' timestamp='1335735584' post='1635323'] Usually vastly overrated by people who don't have it. [/quote] This is true ...and don't get me started on that isoaltion track..it is pretty damn awful in every sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chardbass Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 [quote name='4 Strings' timestamp='1335772458' post='1635581'] erm... no. [/quote] I guess you're a fan so my intention isn't to rile but their sounds are similar, the way they attack their strings is similar and their note choices are similar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
risingson Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 I think it's sloppy, totally mad technique, a pretty nasty tone as well... And I love it. It's totally unique and also incredibly melodic. I'd never dream of playing my own bass this way, but it completely works in the context of the track. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTUK Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 [quote name='risingson' timestamp='1335773645' post='1635610'] I think it's sloppy, totally mad technique, a pretty nasty tone as well... And I love it. It's totally unique and also incredibly melodic. I'd never dream of playing my own bass this way, but it completely works in the context of the track. [/quote] And that is the point..Entwistle and Moon were an awful section in islolation but an unexplainable happy accident combined. No teacher in their right mind would point to either as anything other than how not to do it..but in the Who, they worked. But I bet solo playbacks in the studio were no fun at all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4 Strings Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 [quote name='chardbass' timestamp='1335773609' post='1635609'] I guess you're a fan so my intention isn't to rile but their sounds are similar, the way they attack their strings is similar and their note choices are similar. [/quote] Heh, suppose I am, not riled at all, Geddy is rather special but, to me anyway, quite different. Sorry to be brusque. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chardbass Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 (edited) [quote name='4 Strings' timestamp='1335774096' post='1635620'] Heh, suppose I am, not riled at all, Geddy is rather special but, to me anyway, quite different. Sorry to be brusque. [/quote] Edited April 30, 2012 by chardbass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4 Strings Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 [quote name='JTUK' timestamp='1335773955' post='1635618'] And that is the point..Entwistle and Moon were an awful section in islolation but an unexplainable happy accident combined. No teacher in their right mind would point to either as anything other than how not to do it..but in the Who, they worked. But I bet solo playbacks in the studio were no fun at all [/quote] Can't understand this. Moon especially was very particular about his technique, all skins and cymbals flat (like the old jazzers and many drummers now rather than the 'wall of death' set up), shoulders not moving and very smooth rolls etc. Of course there's all the larking around and showmanship but that's what he does and one of the things that made him so great. He was not a fool on the drums and would have been angered at being called sloppy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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