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[quote name='kerley' timestamp='1328617613' post='1529981']
And yes, buying on price and quality does not equal capitalism.
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Buying (or selling) anything at all regardless of price, quality or for any other reason in this country is to act within a capitalist system. Whether more or less profit is made is irrelevant. We don't live in a classless, moneyless revolutionary socialist society based on common ownership of the means of production! Or we certainly didn't last time I looked.

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Not sure what acting in a capitalist system has to do with it. If I ask my neighbour to make me something, the more time he spends making it makes it 'cost' more. Whether that is a monetary cost, a cost for goods in return or just to show how much he loves me*


*I don't think my neighbour does love me as we haven't even really spoken but if he ever makes me anything I will be able to gauge it and let you know.

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I regret starting this.... :( lol

well, Mr Pierre, you may be right in saying that they appear every month or so, but it be people like you that reply to them :D

plus.... that lego bass is awesome! I want!

Many opinions are floated in topics like these, so I think that almost validates their existence. Just to be a big hairy hypocrite, If I had money pouring out of my ears, I'd probably have a fodera made for me... a buckeye burl emperor 7 string would be nice.

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[quote name='binky_bass' timestamp='1328627786' post='1530247']
Just to be a big hairy hypocrite, If I had money pouring out of my ears, I'd probably have a fodera made for me... a buckeye burl emperor 7 string would be nice.
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I don't think that would make you a hypocrite though, because if you had and excess of money then you wouldn't think of a Fodera as expensive.
It's all relative.

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Trouble with internet forums is that, unlike real life, because person A and person B have a discussion in January, person C and D can't have it again un February :lol:

Personally, I think there is an element of 'mid-life crisis' spending in this as well. Most Harley owners are not hard core bikers but middle aged blokes with more money than sense. The kids have left home, the income is as high as its ever been so why not? A kind of reward for all those years of denial!! I would have one (an AJ Presentation)in a shot all things being equal but it will be a long time before I have £14-16K to spend on a bass. I struggle to see that most of the folk who have these basses are pros as most of the pros I know could not afford these prices.

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Uh oh - better watch out for the Harley riders coming after you Bilbo :)

I was a member of a Harley club in the UK for many years and I've never known so many people put so many miles on their bikes in all weathers.

In my experience the riders of Honda Fireblades and Ducati sportsbikes are more likely to be 'fair weather' bikers than the Harley brigade.

Of course this isn't to say that quite a lot of all bikers fall into the higher income, middle aged bracket. After all, look at me - a 52 year old, twin Fodera owner plus a BMW K1200GT, Aprilia RSVR 1,000 Factory & a Harley mild custom sitting in the garage :lol:

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[quote name='kerley' timestamp='1328612220' post='1529834']
Although the materials of the Fodera presumably cost more than a mass produced bass isn't most of the cost in labour. No doubt Fodera could reduce costs by [b]not being based where they are[/b] and also cutback some time in areas which may not be noticed by many.

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Next time I speak to Jason or Joey, my main two contacts at Fodera, I'll let them know that, now they are more successful, they should give up their fancy New Jersey adresses (where they've lived for about 30 years+) and consider moving to the wilds of Nebraska so they can reduce their prices to the greater benefit of the bass buying / playing public.

I'm sure they'll be most receptive :)

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[quote name='molan' timestamp='1328630871' post='1530340']
Uh oh - better watch out for the Harley riders coming after you Bilbo :)

I was a member of a Harley club in the UK for many years and I've never known so many people put so many miles on their bikes in all weathers.

In my experience the riders of Honda Fireblades and Ducati sportsbikes are more likely to be 'fair weather' bikers than the Harley brigade.

Of course this isn't to say that quite a lot of all bikers fall into the higher income, middle aged bracket. After all, look at me - a 52 year old, twin Fodera owner plus a BMW K1200GT, Aprilia RSVR 1,000 Factory & a Harley mild custom sitting in the garage :lol:
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3 bikes sitting in the garage? You don't have much luck... get the mechanic to work on them right away... :P

Twin Fodera? I never knew they made a model with two necks... :P

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[quote name='EBS_freak' timestamp='1328631227' post='1530349']
3 bikes sitting in the garage? You don't have much luck... get the mechanic to work on them right away... :P
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Well - I know the Beemer won't start because it hasn't moved recently & the Aprilia can temperamental, but the good old lump of American iron always starts first time :)

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[quote name='molan' timestamp='1328631128' post='1530347']
Next time I speak to Jason or Joey, my main two contacts at Fodera, I'll let them know that, now they are more successful, they should give up their fancy New Jersey adresses (where they've lived for about 30 years+) and consider moving to the wilds of Nebraska so they can reduce their prices to the greater benefit of the bass buying / playing public.

I'm sure they'll be most receptive :)
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I'm sure they will :-) The point here is that the basses they make will be exactly the same wherever they choose to be based. They happen to be based in one of the most expensive places (in spectrum of whole world) so have to pay the wages, premises and everything else that goes with that while at the same time making no difference at all to the end product. To me that is an extra expense that does not have any positive factors to it...

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[quote name='Bilbo' timestamp='1328632016' post='1530370']
The trouble with men in the mid life crisis phase is you can't tell them. Like bigots, they cannot but see themselves as reasonable people, unaffected by such things.
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To paraphrase an old joke about Yorkshiremen; you can always tell a man having a mid-life crisis but you can't tell him much.

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The most expensive bass I've ever seen was the Dingwall at Bass direct. That was a tad under £8.000.00. It wasn't even new either. You could buy a couple of Fodera basses for that. I'd say that Fodera basses were probably more time consuming to make too.

http://www.bassdirect.co.uk/bass_guitar_specialists/Prima_A_Walnut.html

Orchestral bassists pay upwards of £20,000.00 for their instruments. How come no one says anything about the cost of professional double basses ?

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To all the people who are complaining about the price of things: how happy would you be if I said - with no knowledge of what you do and what it entails - that I didn't think the work you do isn't worth the salary you receive? I'd wager you wouldn't be terribly happy with me.

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[quote name='BigRedX' timestamp='1328636021' post='1530468']
People keep going on about Fodera's expensive NYC location as though they were slap bang in the middle of downtown Manhattan, when in fact they are in Brooklyn, and not even in the cool/fashionable part like Sadowsky are...
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To be honest, in the visit vids on Youtube, its not that nice an area! I was quite shocked.

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[quote name='neepheid' timestamp='1328646171' post='1530688']
To all the people who are complaining about the price of things: how happy would you be if I said - with no knowledge of what you do and what it entails - that I didn't think the work you do isn't worth the salary you receive? I'd wager you wouldn't be terribly happy with me.
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You are right it would grind my gears. It does onm a daily basis, when folks think 55p is too much for a cup of tea. By all means, go to town and pay £3 parking for an hour, so then we can charge you £2.90 for the same cup of tea but in a different part of the city.

Anyway I digress.

You put it as though the question is rude, however if someone puts something on the market for critique with a certain price tag I expect them to be able to justify the price tag. Where I work I have to be able to answer all manner of questions that are about certain thing's price. We charge an extra 12p to butter a sandwhich. May seem outrageous, but the butter doesn't appear by magic for free, and it doesn't jump onto the bread either. Anyway on point, if I can get another bass that performs just as well if not better (all in my own opinion of course) for half the price, am I not allowed to ask politely where the difference goes, incase it may offend someone?

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[quote name='neepheid' timestamp='1328646171' post='1530688']
To all the people who are complaining about the price of things: how happy would you be if I said - with no knowledge of what you do and what it entails - that I didn't think the work you do isn't worth the salary you receive? I'd wager you wouldn't be terribly happy with me.
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I don't even think the work I do is worth the salary I get so you will not offend me!

Anyway, that is not the point. Nobody is questioning whether they are worth it, I would imagine they are actually underpaid for what they do. Calculate the number of hours taken against the price a Fodera sells for (taking away shops profit margins, shipping, advertising etc,.) and I would guess the hourly rate is not great.

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[quote name='molan' timestamp='1328630871' post='1530340']After all, look at me - a 52 year old, twin Fodera owner plus a BMW K1200GT, Aprilia RSVR 1,000 Factory & a Harley mild custom sitting in the garage :lol:[/quote]

:rolleyes: I think the "look at me" comment speaks for itself... :unsure: :D However, that is just petty jealousy on my part talking. :(

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