Dood Posted January 13, 2011 Share Posted January 13, 2011 Oh and they must be Cryogenically treated too... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mart Posted January 13, 2011 Share Posted January 13, 2011 (edited) [quote name='EdwardHimself' post='1088106' date='Jan 13 2011, 03:00 PM']Lol. Actually I remember a guitar magazine said that some expensive power cable made their amps sound a bit "louder" and "livelier". That was about it really. Also that was talking about a power lead that was about £100. I very much doubt it makes much difference, especially since it's already had to travel a good few miles from the power station to where you live through the power company's cables. ...[/quote] Only £100? That must have been one of those cheapy cables that Victor Wooten advertises [url="http://www.essentialsound.com/guitar-bass.htm#victor-wooten"]http://www.essentialsound.com/guitar-bass.htm#victor-wooten[/url] Edited January 13, 2011 by mart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Count Bassy Posted January 13, 2011 Share Posted January 13, 2011 The worrying thing, to me, is that someone out there is gullible enough to actually buy this stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted January 13, 2011 Share Posted January 13, 2011 [url="http://consumerist.com/2008/03/do-coat-hangers-sound-as-good-monster-cables.html"]Remember this[/url]? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mart Posted January 13, 2011 Share Posted January 13, 2011 Slightly more seriously: when you look at that site, does it tell you you have anything in your basket? I just glanced up and noticed it had put 3 things in my basket, without me clicking on anything. It was only £5000 worth of kit - I could just tell the wife it was an impulse buy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mart Posted January 13, 2011 Share Posted January 13, 2011 Oooh, we should be using their cables for our computers too: "but why not buy one of our mains cables... you'll cancel interference and your computer's sound and pictures will be sharper and clearer." (taken from [url="http://www.russandrews.com/product.asp?lookup=1®ion=UK¤cy=GBP&pf_id=1170&customer_id=PAA1237014111701KYWGGSXPYLGKRJPJ"]http://www.russandrews.com/product.asp?loo...YWGGSXPYLGKRJPJ[/url]) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlloyd Posted January 13, 2011 Share Posted January 13, 2011 [quote name='mart' post='1088135' date='Jan 13 2011, 03:14 PM']Slightly more seriously: when you look at that site, does it tell you you have anything in your basket? I just glanced up and noticed it had put 3 things in my basket, without me clicking on anything. It was only £5000 worth of kit - I could just tell the wife it was an impulse buy.[/quote] I had 99 cables, each priced at more than £1,300... out of stock, unfortunately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amnesia Posted January 13, 2011 Share Posted January 13, 2011 Ah good old fashioned audiophile BS. Gotta love it. My home audio cable buying guide... Mains leads - use the one that comes with the piece of kit. Unless you already have one plugged in the right socket. Or you have one with a nicer shaped plug. Speaker leads - rule of thumb - the bigger the cross section, the more likely your amp will love you. If they are on show, pick a sleeve colour that you like. Co-ax - OEM co-ax's look a bit weedy but I am sure will work fine. I normally replace them - Does it look a bit chunky and cost less than a few quid? Deal done. Optical - Shine a light in one end. If it comes out of the other then its good enough. £1.99 delivered from eBay HDMI - buy as short as possible because its tidier. Gold connectors. A £70 Monster cable WILL NOT out-perform my sub £10 leads when measured with my ears and my eyes. While it is true that some expensive leads do outperform cheaper ones in theory or lab tests, they are installed in my house. The limitations of domestic layouts and human senses means that if someone tells you they can 'hear' that your CD to amp co-ax is fitted the wrong way round they are lying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lemmywinks Posted January 13, 2011 Share Posted January 13, 2011 That site is ace, funniest thing i've read in ages! I suspect that it's actually one big joke, surely nobody is that stupid? I can't imagine the folk who actually sit and write the advertising blurb can make it through one draft without falling on the floor in fits of laughter. Still, good idea for a company. Make 300 sales, buy two or three houses, retire! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icastle Posted January 13, 2011 Share Posted January 13, 2011 [quote name='lemmywinks' post='1088150' date='Jan 13 2011, 03:23 PM']That site is ace, funniest thing i've read in ages! I suspect that it's actually one big joke, surely nobody is that stupid? I can't imagine the folk who actually sit and write the advertising blurb can make it through one draft without falling on the floor in fits of laughter. Still, good idea for a company. Make 300 sales, buy two or three houses, retire![/quote] I think it's a real site - I placed an order for £130,000 and it sent me to an https page for filling in my credit card details! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icastle Posted January 13, 2011 Share Posted January 13, 2011 [quote name='mart' post='1088135' date='Jan 13 2011, 03:14 PM']Slightly more seriously: when you look at that site, does it tell you you have anything in your basket? I just glanced up and noticed it had put 3 things in my basket, without me clicking on anything. It was only £5000 worth of kit - I could just tell the wife it was an impulse buy.[/quote] Yeah - it did it to me as well when I first went to the site... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thepurpleblob Posted January 13, 2011 Author Share Posted January 13, 2011 They're for real. They got hauled over the coals recently by the advertising standards people for talking crap See [url="http://asa.org.uk/ASA-action/Adjudications/2011/1/Russ-Andrews-Accessories-Ltd/TF_ADJ_49597.aspx"]http://asa.org.uk/ASA-action/Adjudications..._ADJ_49597.aspx[/url] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdwardHimself Posted January 13, 2011 Share Posted January 13, 2011 (edited) [quote name='amnesia' post='1088143' date='Jan 13 2011, 03:20 PM']Ah good old fashioned audiophile BS. Gotta love it. My home audio cable buying guide... Mains leads - use the one that comes with the piece of kit. Unless you already have one plugged in the right socket. Or you have one with a nicer shaped plug. Speaker leads - rule of thumb - the bigger the cross section, the more likely your amp will love you. If they are on show, pick a sleeve colour that you like. Co-ax - OEM co-ax's look a bit weedy but I am sure will work fine. I normally replace them - Does it look a bit chunky and cost less than a few quid? Deal done. Optical - Shine a light in one end. If it comes out of the other then its good enough. £1.99 delivered from eBay HDMI - buy as short as possible because its tidier. Gold connectors. A £70 Monster cable WILL NOT out-perform my sub £10 leads when measured with my ears and my eyes. While it is true that some expensive leads do outperform cheaper ones in theory or lab tests, they are installed in my house. The limitations of domestic layouts and human senses means that if someone tells you they can 'hear' that your CD to amp co-ax is fitted the wrong way round they are lying.[/quote] This is pretty much it really. If you have top of the line EVERYTHING else then by all means you might notice some improvement if you are a real officionado but for 99% of audio or a/v setups and environments it's really just not going to be noticed. [quote name='lemmywinks' post='1088150' date='Jan 13 2011, 03:23 PM']Still, good idea for a company. Make 300 sales, buy two or three houses, retire![/quote] it's a bit like those episodes of the apprentice where if you make one sale of a really ridiculously expensive item then you win and are a buisiness genius but if you fail to sell then you are totally incompetent and should be fired... [quote]They're for real. They got hauled over the coals recently by the advertising standards people for talking crap See [url="http://asa.org.uk/ASA-action/Adjudications..._ADJ_49597.aspx"]http://asa.org.uk/ASA-action/Adjudications..._ADJ_49597.aspx[/url][/quote] Lol nice. Edited January 13, 2011 by EdwardHimself Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daz Posted January 13, 2011 Share Posted January 13, 2011 and i though the vic wooten sponsored [url="http://www.essentialsound.com/"]music cord [/url]was expensive! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icastle Posted January 13, 2011 Share Posted January 13, 2011 [quote name='thepurpleblob' post='1088164' date='Jan 13 2011, 03:33 PM']They're for real. They got hauled over the coals recently by the advertising standards people for talking crap See [url="http://asa.org.uk/ASA-action/Adjudications/2011/1/Russ-Andrews-Accessories-Ltd/TF_ADJ_49597.aspx"]http://asa.org.uk/ASA-action/Adjudications..._ADJ_49597.aspx[/url][/quote] It was yesterday! Wow - we certainly have our 'fingers on the pulse' here in BC... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mykesbass Posted January 13, 2011 Share Posted January 13, 2011 Even if all this gear does what it says, what are you going to listen to on it? There are, after all, only so many direct metal mastered, virgin vinyl Alan Parsons Project albums out there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slipperydick Posted January 13, 2011 Share Posted January 13, 2011 I can make up similar cables for at least a tenner less than RussAndnews. and do you 3A fuses for only a fiver each. As long as you buy in multiples of 10 of course. if anyones interested, PM me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spinynorman Posted January 13, 2011 Share Posted January 13, 2011 For the doubters, this is all terribly real. [quote]You were surprised? It’s still a widely held view that one piece of wire sounds like any other. Oh yes. Here I am, my background is pro, working in a technical capacity, doing design work, a member of the AES for 20 years or so, and a cable sounds different![/quote] [url="http://www.russandrews.com/viewindex.asp?lookup=1®ion=UK¤cy=GBP&article_id=rayinterview&customer_id=PAA1237014111701KYWGGSXPYLGKRJPJ"]Ray Kimber interview[/url] [url="http://www.kimber.com/"]http://www.kimber.com/[/url] [url="http://www.stereophile.com/content/kimber-select-ks-6000-series-speaker-cable"]If you see this man, run[/url] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mart Posted January 13, 2011 Share Posted January 13, 2011 [quote name='Mykesbass' post='1088192' date='Jan 13 2011, 03:43 PM']Even if all this gear does what it says, what are you going to listen to on it? There are, after all, only so many direct metal mastered, virgin vinyl Alan Parsons Project albums out there [/quote] Oh, they've got that problem sorted already: look under "Essential Accessories" and you'll find such delights as this: [url="http://www.russandrews.com/category.asp?lookup=0®ion=UK¤cy=GBP&customer_id=PAA1378017111017SBMJKUVHXSDRGIXT&cat_id=PlinncdsScottish"]http://www.russandrews.com/category.asp?lo...linncdsScottish[/url] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan670844 Posted January 13, 2011 Share Posted January 13, 2011 (edited) [quote name='thepurpleblob' post='1087953' date='Jan 13 2011, 01:38 PM']For those of you with more money than sense, you should rush out immediately and purchase... [url="http://www.russandrews.com/product.asp?lookup=1®ion=UK¤cy=GBP&pf_id=1558&customer_id=PAA1237014111701KYWGGSXPYLGKRJPJ"]http://www.russandrews.com/product.asp?loo...YWGGSXPYLGKRJPJ[/url] I have never heard such blatant BS.[/quote] I am stunned !!! you could probably make one out of silver wire for less. This is the rub with HIFI gear, I love valve hifi gear, but have you seen the price of some of this gear?, outragous really but people fall for it every time, specially when you can build your own using the same circuit for 20% of the price. Ultra high fidelity stuff usually has really complex DC power supply with a lot of filtering that is heavily shielded. Is it just me, but i can't see that some wire with some wooden knackers on it can do the same job, this stuff is for people can find water with coat hangers............. Edited January 13, 2011 by dan670844 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete.young Posted January 13, 2011 Share Posted January 13, 2011 [quote name='icastle' post='1088089' date='Jan 13 2011, 02:52 PM']... anything with a 1/4" jack involved was bound to have at least a modicum of intelligence attached to one end of it...[/quote] Like a guitarist, you mean? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apa Posted January 13, 2011 Share Posted January 13, 2011 Lol. This is like reading "The Flat Response" all over again!! Looks fertively at my DAB radio. Has the sudden urge to file 3 little parallel lines on the mains plug connectors....... n o o o o m u s t r e s i s t................ MUST r e s i s t................... A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mykesbass Posted January 13, 2011 Share Posted January 13, 2011 [quote name='mart' post='1088483' date='Jan 13 2011, 07:29 PM']Oh, they've got that problem sorted already: look under "Essential Accessories" and you'll find such delights as this: [url="http://www.russandrews.com/category.asp?lookup=0®ion=UK¤cy=GBP&customer_id=PAA1378017111017SBMJKUVHXSDRGIXT&cat_id=PlinncdsScottish"]http://www.russandrews.com/category.asp?lo...linncdsScottish[/url][/quote] Oops, Barb Jungr - I know one of the double bassists on some of her albums Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Academy Posted January 13, 2011 Share Posted January 13, 2011 I've A/B'd cheap cables against high end Monster cables, etc, and there is a difference in sound. But your ears adjust immediately, and then there's no difference whatsoever. And do the audience care? I use good cables for reliability. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musky Posted January 13, 2011 Share Posted January 13, 2011 My favourite bit of hi-fi hokum - [url="http://www.machinadynamica.com/machina31.htm"]http://www.machinadynamica.com/machina31.htm[/url] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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