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[quote name='fretmeister' post='953777' date='Sep 12 2010, 06:21 PM']I've been enjoying the on board t-wah on my bass cube 30 but I now need something for my.Mark Bass rig.

What's good?[/quote]


Exotic Robotalk would be the one for me. The ability to set it up two ways depending on how you play and the fact that it just sounds great seal it for me.

Check it out in the hands of Travis Carlton [url="http://www.xotic.us/video/index.html?area=rmv_player&id=114&movie=697"]here.[/url]

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[quote name='SisterAbdullahX' post='954071' date='Sep 12 2010, 09:36 PM']Exotic Robotalk would be the one for me. The ability to set it up two ways depending on how you play and the fact that it just sounds great seal it for me.

Check it out in the hands of Travis Carlton [url="http://www.xotic.us/video/index.html?area=rmv_player&id=114&movie=697"]here.[/url][/quote]

Okthat link doesn't work! Go to the Reality Web Videos on the Xotic site and find Travis Carlton.

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I think you might have to be a bit more specific, many of these filters are totally different beasts. Each to his own and all that, I'm digging my cheapo FX25B and my BSW at the moment, but I would love a Groove Regulator.

How much are you willing to spend? What kind of sounds are you looking for? Start on youtube looking at pedal clips, cheapest way to see what they all sound like, just mkae sure you use decent speakers/headphones :).

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In terms of features for the price, it's hard to beat the EHX Enigma at the moment.

If all you need is a funk envelope filter, get a Q-Tron, they are really good at that.

If you are a certified filter maniac, look at the Robot Factory Meatwad.

If you need lots of different filter settings and be able to store/recall them quickly, including ADSR, envelope control, LFO modulation, sample and hold with tap tempo, and low- and band-pass outputs, maybe the Octavius Squeezer.

For a while I had three of the above on my board at the same time. :)

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STOP!!!

Wait, get one of [url="http://www.selectsoundsllc.com/bass-envelope.html"]these bad boys[/url]

Now struggling with the big kinda GAS that causes explosive decompression of the cranium :)

Here's the blurb:-

[i]The Bass Envelope Filter is a continuation of the evolving line of Source Audio effects optimized specifically for the bass guitar. There are 21 different envelope filter effects to choose from including 2 Pole and 4 Pole Low Pass variations, Single Peak, Triple Peak, Peak/Notch variations, as well as Phaser settings. Each of these settings can be further modified with a variety of control options including positive/negative filter sweeps, sweep range, attack and decay speed settings, or frequency range selection.[/i]

I love the soundblox stuff, and if the did it in a Pro box with the 6 recalls I'd be all over that like a case of terminal herpes....



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With something like that, you'll end up with 1 or 2 you actually like. It's like the Line 6 modelling stuff, the only benefit of all that choice is that you'll probably like [i]something[/i] in there.

IMO it's better to get something with versatility rather than multiple versions of the same thing. Which is why the EHX Enigma is such a winner - expression control, start and stop freq. knobs, it's really easy to dial in and does more than just envelope-following.

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[quote name='thisnameistaken' post='957882' date='Sep 16 2010, 12:12 AM']With something like that, you'll end up with 1 or 2 you actually like. It's like the Line 6 modelling stuff, the only benefit of all that choice is that you'll probably like [i]something[/i] in there.

IMO it's better to get something with versatility rather than multiple versions of the same thing. Which is why the EHX Enigma is such a winner - expression control, start and stop freq. knobs, it's really easy to dial in and does more than just envelope-following.[/quote]

I dont understand, you want versatility, well this has more versatility built in than any other envelope filter I've ever seen, since it effectively models different takes on the envelope filter circuitry.

Watch some more of the videos explaining it on youtube, there are over 20 different takes on the concept (IIRC) which change over 20 different parameters in the model (that you cant access from the knobs), you then get a bunch of front panel controls over each one.

Now unless the Enigma actually has over 25 different controls it cant be more versatile than this can it?

Maybe I'm missing what you are getting at, but every envelope filter/bass/fx setup I've tried has an inherent character, this seems to provide a bunch of inherent characters.

Plus if the $120 translates as it usually does (to £120) its a remarkably cheap device for the amount of sounds available IMO.

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[quote name='51m0n' post='958102' date='Sep 16 2010, 10:30 AM']I dont understand, you want versatility, well this has more versatility built in than any other envelope filter I've ever seen, since it effectively models different takes on the envelope filter circuitry.

Watch some more of the videos explaining it on youtube, there are over 20 different takes on the concept (IIRC) which change over 20 different parameters in the model (that you cant access from the knobs), you then get a bunch of front panel controls over each one.

Now unless the Enigma actually has over 25 different controls it cant be more versatile than this can it?

Maybe I'm missing what you are getting at, but every envelope filter/bass/fx setup I've tried has an inherent character, this seems to provide a bunch of inherent characters.

Plus if the $120 translates as it usually does (to £120) its a remarkably cheap device for the amount of sounds available IMO.[/quote]
but its digital!

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[quote name='Kev' post='960004' date='Sep 17 2010, 10:50 PM']Cannot stand this analog obsessed nonsense :)[/quote]

+1 This, together with the "it must have true bypass" idea, really winds me up. As far as I see it, as long as it sounds good, then why should it matter whether it is analog or not? Surely it just makes the job of finding the right sounding pedal that much harder.

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[quote name='EskimoBassist' post='960083' date='Sep 18 2010, 01:06 AM']+1 This, together with the "it must have true bypass" idea, really winds me up. As far as I see it, as long as it sounds good, then why should it matter whether it is analog or not? Surely it just makes the job of finding the right sounding pedal that much harder.[/quote]
not for me it hasnt... but each to their own..
im with you on the "it must have true bypass" being b******s though!! :)

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