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Anyone here have a Gallien Krueger MB Combo? Interested in one myself and would love to hear thoughts/opinons Thinking about switching to the MB212-II myself when I move as my current Head + 410 is too big for where I'm moving too. Which is a shame as I love my Laney 410 to bits, but thinking of jumping ship finally. The idea of having a 500W 212 combo then being able to add cab by cab to a 8 12 2000W Rig does thrill my (and make my wallet cry) haha! Not that I would ever need it. ~ Heard lots of good things about the MBP cabs, scares me to think how big a rig you could have with those plus the MB heads plus the regular cabs.

The good Bugera kit on bass and guitar (really rate a lot of their guitar stuff!) is really good. if you're just missing a graphic, but like the power and core tone of the LH500, have you considered a graphic EQ pedal?

Ou7shined on here loves humbuckers in the P coil position. Not heard from Rich in a while so can't say he'll be along any time soon, but he's some beauts posted around here like that!

[quote name='karlfer' timestamp='1405060660' post='2498333'] One of the reasons I won't order from Thomann. 10 Euro postage on a bass bridge weighing what, 30/40 g? It's a bass bridge, not the bloody Tyne bridge [/quote] Morning tea spilt. Thanks Karl haha!

That's one lucky student, VERY jealous! The JP has huge string spacing for me so never got on with them, but boy do they play and sound so good

If these do come back, I'm seriously tempted to take the plunge! Would be nice to have a nice phat alternative to the P bass to take for acoustic sets, think something like this or a Kala through an amp will sound that bit more acoustic-y and juicy!

I wish the Spyder Amp was still made, loved it's fat valvey grindy grunty goodness, wished I'd managed to get one too! Been thinking of going back down the Ashdown route, but don't really have the funds to just take a plunge! Never had an issue with any Ashdown gear, regardless of age, so never been worried about reliability. My buddy plays an old ABM300 410 +115 rig and sounds huge!

[quote name='Lozz196' timestamp='1403250247' post='2481063'] I had the MB500, then the MB Fusion 500. Soloed they didn`t sound that much different, though the regular MB500 was crisper. However in the mix, the Fusion had much more depth and warmth to it, and you can coax some real old-school motown sounds from it. Flip-side, the MB500 could, in my view, achieve much more of the famed GK crispness. I`ve read on Talkbass that the MB Fusion is the least GK-sounding amp that GK make. I think that`s a good description, but in no way a criticism. Each can get near the other, but they can`t, again in my view, replicate each other entirely. [/quote] Any difference in the "growl potential"? Thinking of getting an MB500 or a fusion and looking for as much of the Growl as I can muster! Thinking possibly the MB500 as that crispness and tightness in the lows may be beneficial for lower faster player etc. A friend of mine has the MB500 and plays a warwick thumb through it and boy does it sound awesome!

[quote name='Ghost_Bass' timestamp='1403091921' post='2479624'] The Darkglass B3K ended my search for the perfect distortion, i bet it would do a very similar sound to using two diferent rigs. The distortion works on the mid/high freqs and the blend control retains an untouched low-end. For more tonal shaping there's the B7K. [/quote] So much want for the B3K/B7K! Such a wicked crunch. Personally not a huge fan of non full range distortions, which is why I much prefer bi-amping, but for a single route solution I'd definitely use a Darkglass There is a pedal maker/shop called Tym who make a pedal called the Big Bottom which filters low end which allows you to apply effects in a loop to only the mids and upper frequencies, which is pretty awesome for getting some cool but still fat sounds! Really liking the tone of the Brimstone!

[quote name='Prime_BASS' timestamp='1402907768' post='2477652'] Same when I started all I had was my old guitar stuff so played through a hulking orange and matching 4x12. The full range bass signal running parrallel to a overdriven guitar amp does sound the nuts but I'll be bug gated if I'm carrying all that crap. [/quote] Yeah, I generally run a single signal chain just for convenience, if there is a spare guitar rig set up on stage I always ask if I can use it (especially if it's the house stuff not being used but is still set up!) Often people say yes and it's lots of fun

[quote name='DanEly' timestamp='1401874141' post='2467635'] This is a great break down of gear! Doesn't the second Pitch shifter get used for the slow dive bomb effect he uses at the end of sets or tracks and isn't it a standard 8x10 ampeg cab for the dry bass? [/quote] Pretty sure that's right, uses an ampeg 810 on it's side like James Johnson does. See I go for this kind of massive rig/sound (have toured with a similar rig but a less pitch shifty board), but with a full band! But these guys have cool riffs and great vocals, something I feel we didn't! Was a hell of a wall of sound though

[quote name='bassmayhem' timestamp='1402730912' post='2476315'] A nice overdrive that won't scoop out your low end is the EBS MultiDrive; it can be found second hand at a reasonable cost. I use tha to get some "hair" in my tone from time to time. The EBS MetalDrive [b]may [/b]also be an option, but I've never encountered it... Don't forget the guy is using a Dingwall bass with 37" scale B-string that [b]REALLY [/b]has an impact on his tone! [/quote] Too right! Those things THUNDER! Really want to play one live. [quote name='bakerster135' timestamp='1402737040' post='2476372'] You've probably seen it, but this gives a very good indication of how Nolly gets his tone. Not sure if he was using the Cali76 at the time of that live video, but it makes a big difference to my ears. [media]http://youtu.be/lMxbP1V3WBo[/media] [/quote] Yep! I've asked Nolls about it myself, ran into him in Bath where my friend studies and we bumped into him at a coffee shop, we both almost hyper ventilated haha! He wasn't using the Cali76 at the time of the original video, that was before he even had his custom 6 string I believe and he was using the G spot for the 6 string stuff like Ji and Masamune (God I love that song!) That was just Combustion -> Axe FX -> FOH, I'm also pretty sure that tone is a tone matched B7K tone as with the lightweight rig they had to use for travelling (too many ruddy guitars!) they didn't want any knobs to be touched or moved on it, so it was all tone matching with I think either Zilla 410/412's but more likely an ampeg 810 at the time from PII cab IR loaded. I'm a big Nolly fan, especially of his tones and his taste in guitars. The Cali helps the most add really making the bass punch and the distortion grind, the B7K is what really gives the major tightness which he'd be lost with out. Hopefully the 3rd album Juggernaut uses these cabs and will either be a Matrix power amp or the QSC 4.3 into his 2 6x10s from Zilla, with the new Axe Fx for tone shaping. Will hopefully mean they can have the nice and tight bass sound higher in the mix, I feel the classic SVT ampeg stack used on PII just had too much woof in the low end! Personally to get a tone similar to this "ish" I've been using marshall guitar amps/a marshall jack hammer, not quite the same, but similar characteristics (ish... ha!)

[quote name='Cameronj279' timestamp='1402533324' post='2474603'] I had an ODB-3 too and that was my impression of it. Got a B3K and (opinion alert) it's a totally different league from the Boss. As far as I'm aware Nolly uses the Axe Fx for his distortion and the B7K as a preamp. If you're near Motherwell/Glasgow you're welcome to try my B3K out [/quote] At the time of that live video that was Dingwall Combustion 5 into B7K for all tone shaping into an Axe FX II with a tube DI model and some EQ, he switched to using the B7K as just a preamp after that tour and when they went back to using real cabs. The tone on that video is the DI feed from his rig with a small blend of the Go Pro mic.

Always done this by running the bass straight into bass rig and into a marshall stack, been my preferred sound for years, blends and frequency crossing stuff just doesn't do it for me. Even dabbled in Tri amping just because I could... Basically found out I like a full range sound with a full range distortion over it, and I love that low end roll off low end grind/crunch you get from a bass through a guitar amp. Maybe it's because that's how I first played bass before I owned a bass amp, always played bass through my brothers Marshall and I knew I'd be thumped if I touched any of the controls hah!

Still keen to try a COG, I designed a pedal with Tom but was hit with bills and then uprooted around the globe for a few month. A friend of mine plays stringray and a modded jazz with a B3K and I LOVE it, grindy and growly and snarly as anything. Barks like mad. All depends what kind of sound you're going for, the Ashdown and the Darkglass are quite different animals. I love the B3K/B7K as they are rather marshall-esque in tone, and can get a bass equivalent of a boutique metal guitar amp ish sound which I love too! Best bass distortion tone I think I've ever had is when I was able to play bass through a Diezel VH4 with a borrowed Laney Nexus Tube rig as the clean side. Still counting on the lottery haha!

I tried a Faith when they launched and adore them, been meaning to pick one up for a long time. Gorgeous instruments, very rich in tone!

Somebody say Hush?! I always think that sound sounds like it could be written in any Era. I love Burn to pieces, brilliant album. Love my Vinyl of Made in Japan! Definitely my two favourite Deep Purple albums, but to be honest I'm happy to listen to all of them. Jon Lord is a huge influence on me. No one can beat the hammond through a marshall sound he had. Jordan Rudess does some decent Lord tributes though. Been too long since I listened to DP actually... This is why I love this forum Plus I can have taste in any era of music and because I'm secretly older at heart no one judges me haha! (No offence. We all know no one here is a day over 25 )

It's weird I have one too and have been recording lots of bass via DI recently (solo bass stuff) and it all just has this odd "digital" sound to me, especially open E to 5th fret A (lower or higher seems to sound all right) but it just sounds a bit flat and not really interesting, even using my amp as a DI or using a good quality DI box. In the mix I've not really noticed it and with distortion it basically is a non issue, but for a lot of the clean slower solo bass stuff I'm doing at the moment is just doesn't sound good, so I've actually gone back to doing everything with microphones. Which wasn't what I wanted as I wanted to be able to record my stuff while I'm in my flat rather than at home home in another city! Though perhaps its a case of more tweaking, I've found cab sims to be the real make or break for me hating a tone and finding it ok. That said, heard countless recordings in similar set ups where I like the sound, so who knows. It's probably just me going mad haha! Going from using an amp to using headphones/a DI/an interface sound is certainly a change and I guess just takes getting used to

[quote name='karlfer' timestamp='1399802443' post='2447708'] I did my first gig with my new amp last night, Carvin BX700. Worked far better with my S12V than the GK MB500 I had before. Both new would just about scrape into your budget, the cab being the expensive bit. As one of our guitarses said last night (looking at how the amp was set), "bloody Hell, you ain't even tickling it!". This against 2 guitarses and the drummer through the PA. And me not! Oh, and the Barefaced fits in the boot of Her Who Makes Toast By Breathing On Bread's Tigra convertible. [/quote] Glad you're liking it karl! How does it compare to the GK in terms of tone?

This thread is giving me mad GAS! I really want a jazz with a P neck, and a fretless to match. Must. Resist. Need. New. Amp. And. Food.

The metal Muff and LS-2, depends what era of his tone you're looking for... When you say similar, do you mean in terms of tone or in terms of having a clean and dirty loop? The Ashdown James Lomenzo is probably the closest other distortion in my experience as both are based of the Billy Sheehan Pearce BC-1 and have that distinct midrange. Cog effects made another pedal which kills that sound too! (Though may be a bit above the EBS in price too and for the life of me I can't remember what it's called!) Second hand LS-2 and James Lomenzo distortion could get you similar options and tone but for a smaller price tag! My only gripe with the J-lo is I wish it was more aggressive and was a full range distortion, but I have strange distortion tastes ha! Prime, please don't tempt me... I'd love to own a BC-1, would be a dream come true, but I just can't justify it since it would likely just sit in my house. Best of luck with the sale mate! (Plus I'm poor haha!)