Dood

How many greatest drummers did the Rolling Stones have??? I'll get my coat.

Just dropped an EMG PJ set in one of my favourite basses and I have to say, I love it even more now! Hooked up to a Glockenklang preamp it's a brilliant pairing. Big tone! Definitely recommend John East's kit though - he's a very talented chap!

[quote name='zbd1960' timestamp='1468002265' post='3088032'] The main point is surely that what matters is the end result - if it's a decent performance, what's the issue? [/quote] I never thought this post was gonna come ha ha ha!!! The issue is that the discussion has been done to death by a bunch of people who aren't out gigging tonight whilst a whole bunch are, and getting paid for it - and they're probably using a stand, for their music, their tablet or their pint.

[quote name='fretmeister' timestamp='1468012340' post='3088143'] Orchestra: fine Imagine Muse or Metallica with music stands. No. [/quote] Is that just because what we have been led to believe as 'the norm'?

[quote name='stingrayPete1977' timestamp='1468011173' post='3088125'] You can get a machine that you load the pages into that flips them with a foot pedal. [/quote] Classical musicians have slaves by their feet. The stand hides them from the delicate public.

[quote name='paul h' timestamp='1468013180' post='3088154'] Thinking about it...there are not many successful/famous Steve Harris clones either. [/quote] or The Ox, JJ Burnell, John Deacon...

[quote name='bonzodog' timestamp='1467991202' post='3087920'] A good quality music stand like one below can double up as a laptop stand. The top part will lie back flat or at an angle with the lip stopping the lap top from sliding off. We use one for our PA mixer [url="http://www.terralec.co.uk/other_stands/cobra_adjustable_music_stand/33216_p.html?gclid=Cj0KEQjwnv27BRCmuZqMg_Ddmt0BEiQAgeY1l2-KMgRUhUvo4pLyoleMr0mcdwCtto6gNJvTUxXpi7AaAs9O8P8HAQ"]http://www.terralec....pi7AaAs9O8P8HAQ[/url] [/quote] I hope that the one I've used was a duff one! - The plastic screw fixtures are ok for lightweight gear but will slip when something heavy and expensive is used on it. Just wanted to say 'beware' just in case. If it's any help, the one I have linked to uses a similar mechanism to lock the angle that is used by heavy video camera tripod stands.

[quote name='miles'tone' timestamp='1468012237' post='3088140'] Cheers dood Shuker sounds good but also sounds expensive! I'll check him out now. Edit - ooo, £280 for a finished neck it seems! That would be doable. I'll ring Jon for a chat about it. Ta v much [/quote] That's a great price knowing what sort of quality Jon is well known for. Nice one!! No problem, Dood sends his regards!

[quote name='paul h' timestamp='1468012575' post='3088147'] Beyond awesome. Massive congratulations! [/quote] Yes, this congratulations. GO FOR IT!!!!!!

[quote name='arthurhenry' timestamp='1468011829' post='3088136'] He has recorded hundreds of songs in dozens of bands and played over 4000 gigs. His style is rock bass playing which suits the songs he plays. Some people only watch his solos on youtube. Listen to any of the songs he recorded with DLR, or Mr. Big and see if you can hear a style which is "not usable". It's the same stuff that most of us play 90% of the time! [/quote] Gonna have to +1 that. The thing I've noticed and hopefully what I understand about the tone coming from Mr Sheehan's rig is that it is pre-shaped to be that sound that fits in the mix yet cuts through. Carries the low end but sits nicely with the guitars. You know, that thing which has been beaten to death in another discussion elsewhere on basschat. Much like many bass tones that sound great in the mix, it doesn't always sound that good solo'd. Or vice-versa for that matter!! In the track? superb. If there were any more need to describe this, you only have to check out 'isolated recordings' of some of our favourite bassists to hear what the bass tone alone lacks when it truly makes the track when accompanied.

[quote name='arthurhenry' timestamp='1468011007' post='3088124'] There are no Billy Sheehan clones because Billy's playing is boring. Thanks for your definitive answer. [/quote] I sense a bit of cheeky trolling from our friend Visog ... It's just not a statement that can be backed up lol.

Funnily, I've been talking to Fender USA about which of their precision necks are the chunkiest - but when it comes to wanting something truly massive? Well, go custom. I'd go to Jon at Shuker Guitars .co.uk who is well versed in making some really tasty necks!

[quote name='visog' timestamp='1468000018' post='3088007'] Can you whistle a single BS lick or line? [/quote] But since you're asking I can play quite a few of them, my whistling sucks though.

[quote name='arthurhenry' timestamp='1468008043' post='3088083'] Billy is a rock band bass player - he locks in with the bass drum, plays parts which serve the song and sings. That's 95% or more of what he does. [/quote] I think you've just nailed it. Yes, he can do the bass guitar finger gymnastics, but it's not about what he does 95% of the time.

[quote name='visog' timestamp='1468004024' post='3088048'] So Mark King we have 'Hot Water' or 'Love Games'. Marcus we have 'Run for Cover', for Billy we have.... ? ermm ? that one with the tapping. You know... diddley, diddley, plunk? [/quote] Which would of course make sense to Mark King and Marcus Miller fans, but Sheehan fans could happily reel off Mr Big anthems, Winery Dogs grooves, Niacin, Dave Lee Roth and Talas bass belters with ease. I'm sure that there are plenty of Sheehan followers who can name a whole bunch of Tony MacAlpine, Ritchie Kotzen (now with WD's with Billy) and maybe a few of the Terry Bozzio tracks too, albeit the Bozzio offering is a bit leftfield for my liking. I suspect that may number more than a handful of tracks.. per band..

[quote name='skankdelvar' timestamp='1468000609' post='3088013'] Certain things which are not acceptable in guitar bands: * [b]Headstock tuners[/b]: Popular with airy-fairy, pinko folkies* and sensitive singer-songwriter types. If you can't tune by ear use a pedal tuner. Or grow a pair. * [b]Hats[/b]: If you're a slap-head, don't hide it - embrace it. Think exotic headwear makes you look interesting? That's too heavy a lift for one little hat. * [b]Onstage[/b] [b]Banter[/b]: Unless your frontman is naturally funny (as opposed to laughable) tell him to zip it. No one laughs. And [i]you[/i]? You're not as funny as he is. * [b]Medleys[/b]: Unless you're playing a supper club ... just ... no. * [b]Reggae / Country / Metal versions of current pop hits[/b]: See above * [b]Encores[/b]: Only permissible if you actually [i]leave[/i] the corner of the pub into which you are shoe-horned. Otherwise it's not an encore - it's just another song. * [b]Encores[/b] [b](having left the stage)[/b]: See medleys * [b]Playing for free[/b]: only (i) talent-less amateurs and (ii) the charitably inclined play for free. If you are (i) go dig a basement then drag the earth back over you * [b]Playing for money[/b]: Only play for money if you are a total bread-head. Otherwise the money will blister your fragile soul like holy water on a vampire. * [b]Bringing spare kit to a gig[/b]: WTF! We are [i]free spirits[/i]! We are rock'n'roll [i]outlaws[/i]. We don't carry spares and don't wear badgers. * [b]Lending gear[/b]: No one ever lends gear. Unless you're supporting Wilko Johnson; Norman will ask for a loan of your amp. You may not refuse; it's the law. * [b]Asking to borrow gear[/b]: Just ... [i]get out[/i]. But you had a last-minute equipment failure and didn't bring a spare? That's [i]your[/i] fault, you stupid rock'n'roll outlaw. * [b]Stacking multiple 2x10's vertically[/b]: Hubert! Hubert? Are you [i]trying[/i] to kill someone, Hubert? Learn to live with comb filtering, you homicidal m****rf**ker. * [b]Music Stands[/b]: Advisable in all circumstances. Only a ninny would gig without a music stand. Ask the Geoff Love Orchestra (but expect a savage leathering). &--#62; [/quote] I'm quoting the whole post, because I will probably re-read it again later and laugh just the same

[quote name='visog' timestamp='1468000018' post='3088007'] I'll go with it's because he never had a hit or anthem, What's his 'Eruption', 'Jump' or 'Beat It'? Can you whistle a single BS lick or line? [/quote] Well, you say that, but everyone wants to be Mark King / Marcus Miller etc etc at the LBGS but no one I've seen has been able to do a decent version of a Sheehan track.

[quote name='Happy Jack' timestamp='1467995761' post='3087962'] This has become something of a Basschat meme, cropping up all over the place, which makes it tricky to pin down where it started. I can remember it also being used in the context of bass stands, vocal autotune, and drummers playing around the beat! [/quote] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif][size=3]Hee, hee. Yes, but no-one can remember who said it.[/size][/font][/color]

[quote name='blue' timestamp='1467917080' post='3087333'] So cover bands in the UK are still playing Mustang Sally? I'm starting to think cover bands in the UK are very different than our Milwaukee cover bands. Blue [/quote] I like cover bands that think outside of the box and play something a bit different. What's a typical set from a Milwaukian cover band?

[quote name='ambient' timestamp='1467988291' post='3087890'] That looks great thanks, I saw one of those earlier on Amazon. Even got a little bit for the interface to sit on . [/quote] Don't use it on stage though, people will start talking I've been pleased with this one. It's certainly less flimsy than other Stagg ones I've had in the past where the plastic knobs break.

But I was going to purchase this one! http://meinlpercussion.com/products/Product/show/1593/1671/1584/ If it's good enough for a drummer's kit bag....

This one: http://www.staggmusic.com/en/product_detail/cos_10_bk.html?backp=1

Ahhh yes! Mine! Let me get a link! it has been superb so far!