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best thing would be to a/b the heads and cabs of against each other obviously its not norm easy to do this. andy

what are you actually doing other than killing people if they get to close? andy

[quote name='JamesBass' timestamp='1390252805' post='2343263'] The jack does fit the input, but as people have said, the manual only states about the speakon only? I may just buy a Speakon to jack lead and get more leads when I get a new cab [/quote] if it fits it will be fine, dnt worry if you feel better having a speakon to jack go down that route. andy

dnt be intimidated by players who have been playing for years, use them as inspiration the first players who inspired me to pick up the bass were people like cliff burton, geezer butler, geddy lee and justin chancellor. some crazy good players but they all had to start somewhere so just remember dnt feel down just because you dnt become awesome in the first few weeks dude. finding people to play with always helps you progress, if you can play with a drummer really helps you progress! ifound my current band through friends on facebook but before that my very first band met on gumtree! andy

would never pay to try out a bass. andy

cant wait! the teasers ive been sent look sweet! we geeked out a bit on the art work and even the colours of the leds! andy

[quote name='Lee Carter' timestamp='1390227781' post='2342810'] Happened to me with a Ric. Coveted a Ric, Bought a Ric, played the Ric, Ric stayed under bed for a year...sold the Ric. [/quote] same thing! got a 1977 ric but just didnt sit right, however id do still really want one! andy

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i spend alot of my time on youtube! looking at product reviews, music videos and interviews of bands i like. occasionally ill get a link pop up to a band ive never heard of, and recently this making me look bad as most of the new bands i find have female bassists or lead singers!!! kinda hard to say i found this new band like their music, everyone just thinks im a bit of a perv! ie the first time i said i was loving the music from a Brazilian all girl metal band the first words from a friend were " oh yeh Brazilian! " anyone else have this problem? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45nftQN0IoI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjsAloS0ctk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdT7M4f2L9A http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVXoC-95zDk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_JgNTQbDvlw http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dc6lhFWhofA also shows my pretty varied taste in music! lol andy

[quote name='sk8' timestamp='1390212668' post='2342552'] What's it got?! [/quote] fuzz, octave (based on the pearl 1 up 1 down), chorus and reverb the chorus and octave can both blend with the fuzz. :-) andy

they sound awesome through a 610hlf! well did when i had them?! andy

[quote name='LukeFRC' timestamp='1390162615' post='2342220'] How are you defining getting lost in the mix? I agree for some sounds like we were discussing in your other thread the amp and cab add a lot to the sounds, but for others... when I was gigging more I lost count of the number of times the PA would take the bass DI before the amp- you chat about what it should sound like if you need but otherwise I've tended to just trust the PA guy's professionalism. [/quote] most amps will sound different in the mix, some to your ear will sound further back say, others more pronounced but the change in amp does change the sound, however you can make alot of amps sound similar so i do get you in that regard. personally i wouldnt want a venue taking a di before my amp, they can plug in to the di on the head. andy

but if you not getting noticed in the mix then that a problem that starts at the beginning got nothing to do with the pa? or if you get lost in the mix could be a sound guy thinking he needs to eq your bass a certain way. the sound from your amp really does dictate the sound your going to give the pa. andy

it depends very much on the sound you go for, if i when't to a cleaner amp it would defiantly be noticed in the mix the sound my swr amp had in the mix was very different to my orange. andy

[quote name='martthebass' timestamp='1390139175' post='2341791'] Thanks for the answers guys. Cabs will be a pair of NY121s. Not sure if there are two inputs on the back of these....there was on my old 151HR. If there are 2 then ill daisy chain if not then different leads. I was concerned about using standard jack speaker leads, I thought it was necessary to use speakons with 500W output amps? [/quote] good quality jack to jack leads will be fine, or you can always get a speakon to jack lead, i have one aswell as a standard speakon lead as some cabs we use on gigs like old marshalls or ampegs have a jack input. andy

personally i wouldnt bother? andy

[quote name='tommania' timestamp='1390095856' post='2341503'] I'll definitely do that. Thanks for the advice on the Orange gear. I'm not really sure to be honest. If you check that link I posted in my first post you'll see what my band plays. We recorded in Paris over the summer and got signed to a label over there so I'm expecting big things. It just sounded HUGE and DEEP and GNARLY. If you get me? The guitarists in my band do a lot of quirky riffs and I like to fill out the low end with a big deep sound. [/quote] nice dude congrats, pretty different end of the spectrum from me but nice stuff, to save you getting a whole new rig you could try putting a, svt kinda sounding dirt infront of your amp, as the weight similar to the orange maybe coming from the tubes? so something like a vt bass or bb pre amp might get you closer for cheaper, or there are absolute bargain heads at the minute in the for sale section like the svt pro 6 which has the ampeg growl. [url="https://myspace.com/syruss/music/songs"]https://myspace.com/syruss/music/songs[/url] link to my old band if you listen to the songs twist of fate and waiting for my life thats the svt pro 6 with a di and a mic infront of my 610 obviously a bit heavier than you guys but you can hear the sound. andy

[quote name='tommania' timestamp='1390093746' post='2341492'] My local music shop doesn't have that much variety of stuff other than Ashdown so it's a shame I can't try different cabs out myself. I really liked the Ampeg set up I used though, so I'll keep an eye out for any ampeg cabs. Do you think my head is worth keeping or is there better I could be using? T [/quote] i would maybe try with different cabs first your amp is probably fine, what music do you play? what did you like about the ampeg setup that you think you current setup is missing? andy

[quote name='Prime_BASS' timestamp='1390094947' post='2341497'] Nice playing but what about the pedal lol. God damn marketers. [/quote] i know right! andy

most of my board is guitar effects or used to be guitar effects, the only way to know is to try them. andy

[quote name='tommania' timestamp='1390090785' post='2341469'] I actually tried the 610hlf last week with various settings on my amp and to be honest it sounded muddy and not worth the price they are! Has anyone had any experience with Orange heads? [/quote] they arent sealed like the 810 so you have to be really careful the way you eq, however they not for everyone. ive got lots of time for orange heads! currently use the monster terror bass 1000 which is honestly a fantastic head for what i do! so much head room to push out the lows i need distorts like a proper valve head into brutal overdrive and with the 1000 you will never ever not be loud enough. but ive also had an ad140b and that was amazing but at the time i had a clean bass sound and being all valve and back then using only a 115obc so didnt push enough are really but again really nice over drive. now the ad200 is a monster! same/similar pre amp to the terror bass but with the valve power section its got much more weight behind each note! the eq isnt as useable as others but it defiantly is more useful than some will give it credit for. andy

[quote name='walbassist' timestamp='1390089122' post='2341449'] Try some other cabs with your head, you may be surprised (in a good way) [/quote] totally agree, and if you like ampeg the cabs do have a noticable effect on the sound so maybe try a 610hlf? andy

[quote name='skidder652003' timestamp='1390071487' post='2341206'] you've heard the old tosh we churn out Phil, you only need one bass for rock mate, guitards now using a Les Paul as well as the strat and it drives me nuts with the swap overs, we've told him to do it as little as possible and let us (me and drummer) start some intros while he does, but what with his reluctance for a set list ( a whole other thread!) its all becoming a real issue with the tumbleweed blowing between numbers ( I have no stage front craft) [/quote] see thats the difference, our setlist puts all our drop c songs together so the change only happens once and as my 5er has a low c its a change we dnt need to make at the same time and it can happen in a break between songs, and its no trouble for our singer to chat for a few seconds andy

im gonna be switching now that ive got two basses im happy with, why should our guitarist have all the fun! and they do sound different the jazz does have a little bit more growl than the mody but only just, can play the set with either but it takes like 20 seconds to change. andy

tbh a good amp and cab will either make someone good sound good or someone bad sound very bad. i have seen bassists absolutely kill it and sound amazing on a behringer ultrabass stack, that was enough for me to understand that a lot of the sound comes from your fingers or the way you play the amp does play a big part but its not all about the gear but the gear does help(if that made sense) andy