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signed its stupid how the council even has to take this seriously! andy

i know right

i dnt really need but i want! andy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hx7dOcFDWtI sounds really nice! andy

[quote name='Chrismanbass' timestamp='1390402937' post='2345014'] nothing to do with the sound of a band dude i've already explained why mic'ing a bass cab on a small stage is a bad idea [/quote] how small is small tho? andy

basically a slightly overdrive dude so any low gain drive should do it. andy

[quote name='froggybassboy' timestamp='1390428980' post='2345482'] thanks for that. I also read somewhere that the orange originally sourced theirr tubes from China and admitted that they could be better. No idea if the newer ones are also chinese/better. [/quote] they sound good, dnt know what tubes mine has they will sound good i wouldnt worry to to much. andy

[quote name='charic' timestamp='1390405977' post='2345065'] Is it just me or does the vocalist of Nervosa sound like she could actually be that Letty (I think) from fast and furious? [/quote] this is very true!

[quote name='Thunderpaws' timestamp='1390427365' post='2345447'] Haven't the newer ones had their valve issues sorted? I think I read an interview with someone from Orange who said they had realised they were crappy so sourced better ones. [/quote] didnt know there was any valve issues? they had the hot di thing but thats been sorted for a while. andy

isn't this just a lazy way to improve your technique, i mean flamenco guys and taping can do everything he just did no? andy

The 1000 is scary loud never goes close to 10 o clock, i use mine with a obc 410 so a 600w i think cabinet and its fine. You'll have more headroom with the 1000 but depends if you need that as the 500 is loud! Andy

[quote name='BurritoBass' timestamp='1390405590' post='2345057'] I'm still puzzled by how you can have "wrong reasons" for discovering a band?! Some people do initially go on image. I blame MTV [/quote] ie see attractive female click link to watch the video and end up loving the music! as has happened with nervosa andy

[quote name='Chrismanbass' timestamp='1390401933' post='2344994'] depends if they're doing it to make your band sound better. you can have the best bass tone in the world, but if your band sound crappy in getting it then noone will want to listen to you. [/quote] sadly i think a lot do it as its just the way they do it. in another thread ive said about my use of fuzz and them not wanting to spend time putting a mic infront of my cab. granted if you sound bad there is work to do before you go live.

actually got a mate to just listen last night before i told him who they are! he had the same reaction to finding out they all had fit women in them! andy

[quote name='BigRedX' timestamp='1390397422' post='2344886'] This old bit of misinformation once again. No sound engineer would ever even remotely consider DI'ing a guitar amp, or heavens forbid the guitar, so why is it considered acceptable to subject bass players to this? IME guitarist with their multitude of mis-matched pedals connected by all sorts of weird cables and all-valve amps are far more likely to suffer from an equipment failure at some point in the signal chain, but they are always put through the PA with a mic on the speaker. ------------- Interestingly in my days as a guitarist I was using a Hughes & Kettner Tube 50 amp which has a Red Box speaker simulator DI built in. In studio tests I found that you had to use a fairly detailed microphone in a good sounding room before there was a noticeable difference between the DI and mic'd signal. So I decided that I would prefer to use the DI output live since it improved separation and allowed me to get closer to the amp for controlled feedback with no mic or stand in the way. I met a lot of resistance from PA engineers simply on the basis that it wasn't how it was normally done. [/quote] i do agree, im trying to sort something atm, gonna star bring my own mic to gigs so the sound man has nothing to do my end just a bit of mixing his to combine his di with the mic on the cab. chrismanbass what stops the guitar mics from picking up the same things as a mic in front of the bass? i realise they are very different beasts but still? andy

[quote name='andydye' timestamp='1390395646' post='2344849'] to be a bit more verbose in response... going straight into the desk as a line level input will be worse than going via a di box taking a di signal from the back of your amp into a desk will allow you to shape the sound a little and will mean that your amp's preamp is affecting your bass sound a tad. On some/most amps with a di out there's a pre/post switch somwehere which then routes the signal to the di either before the eq section (ie it has no effect on the di signal) or post eq (the eq section affects the di signal). a sound engineers favourite is often (as described above) to connect the bass straight into the di box and then off to the desk and then take a line signal from the di into the amp on stage, totally depends on the venues you're playing though... [/quote] see now i have only ever been given one or the other, before they come up to plug the cables and di box in i just plug the mic cable into my di out, andy

[quote name='Chrismanbass' timestamp='1390395435' post='2344843'] from a bass players point of view: yes from a sound engineers point of view: no as an engineer unless there is a specific reason not too i would always run a di box before the amp using the link out on the di to spilt the signal into the amp the reason for this is even in the event of amp failure i'm still getting signal from the di box and can work on fixing a solution (ussually putting bass into the wedges for a start) and not interupt the bands set also some amps create a serious amount of buzz and hum which sounds terrible and can be easily avoided by using a pre amp di box [/quote] i can see your point but for anyone who gets a bit of there sound from there amp say like a distortion or fuzz they gonna sound quiet nasty. for me for recording ive done both but much prefer the di out andy

i used to use the blue triangle dunlop picks, not sure of thickness, always worked for me, just use what feels comfortable. andy

i use a mesa boogie flux drive to push my amp into a really nice heavy overdrive which can get the attack that i like. also if i dime the gain on the terror it gets pretty brutal andy

someone wants to be the edge of bass?! i use to have a mxr carbon copy and ehx memory boy, to be honest i used them totally wrong as modulated reverb to fill out the sound of my old 3 piece. they were very nice delays tho, really nice dark repeats i always used to try and write around the delay make a point of it. andy

[quote name='Truckstop' timestamp='1390314426' post='2343910'] I just prefer a clanky sound. I like to hear absolutely everything that goes on, so I like having severely cut bass frequencies. We have a dude that makes us sound good FOH; What does it matter what I/we sound like on stage? When we rehearse I use two Workingman's 10s and have a much fuller tone. The other band members are well aware of, and practice, careful EQing so no problems. Truckstop [/quote] you guys obviously know what your doing so this not meant at you, but shouldn't a sound man just be reflecting the sound of the band? obviously adjusting for the room etc, also dnt most places where you go through the pa have monitors? so i can always hear myself be weird if that sounds different to the sound coming from the amp. andy

[quote name='Salt on your Bass?' timestamp='1390308487' post='2343779'] Ah man, looking forward to your thoughts on that when its in hand! When are you expecting it Andy? Lefty, that's lovely looking pedal! [/quote] hopefully next month sometime think its being put together now, hope it gets to me so i can use for my up and coming recording! cant wait to get the tarkin going! andy