KevB

Well the new project finally got to have it's first outing last night. After about 6 or 7 rehearsals we'd just about got 2 sets together (we're working more on new extra stuff now to expand the list) and only one opportunity to set up our own PA before we got offered a gig at less than 24 hrs notice but thought 'what the hell'. You need to get out and do it for real for some things to manifest themselves that need attention that you don't always pick up in a rehearsal room. Yes, we all had a few mistakes (I've played a lot better for sure) here and there and I was left with my dick in the wind on one song that they started out of sequence without warning and I didn't have the patch for my midi pedals ready so I was constantly playing catchup. Also had a Les Dawson moment in the encore as I got cramp in my midi pedal playing foot and it seized up on me for a few bars (the foot, not the pedal) - ouch! It's just tired pub rock covers but there's a market for it and I'm pretty sure we will get rebooked, overall very positive response from punters at the end including one guy who wanted our number to pass on to landlord at his local so he can contact us for our availability. It's still a bit off the finished article but a solid start. Finally big thanks to our very own [b]Chris Sharman[/b] who brought the ever fragrant Mrs S with him to watch some ageing weekend warriors get up and have a go, I swear I spotted him dong some male bonding during one of the later numbers . Hopefully get to return the favour tonight and see Chris in Nottingham.

[quote name='ambient' timestamp='1434726240' post='2802261'] Gather a few bassists together and take it in turns to play the same bass. Leave all the controls the same, don't touch anything. Then come back to this thread �� [/quote] Well of course I've done exactly this being in the house band for jam sessions, which is why I wrote my post. I think the main example where style and tone become synonymus is pick v fingerstyle, 2 different playing styles that significantly affects tone. But I'd class that as different playing [i]styles[/i] anyway rather than what is already set up at source. You could still more dramatically change what someones [i]tone[/i] was with just a few turns of a few knobs on the amp irrespective of what they could do with their fingers.

[quote name='BILL POSTERS' timestamp='1434733141' post='2802356'] Stop worrying about it and just play it. [/quote] Forgot to put a winky emoticon in there, my post entirely tongue in cheek.Wasn't remotely worried. Needless to say not a whiff of indignation, we actually had a few people dancing to it and it was only second song in on the first set. Think it's staying in for time being

Over the last few years I've realised I've actually grown to rather detest these types of things stuck onto the headstocks of various people I've watched or played with. Not seen one yet that didn't ruin the aesthetics of the instrument it was attached to to some extent. Most Warwicks probably excepted.

We've just been offered a gig at short notice tonight, will put it to the test and report back tomorrow who looked offended.

Yes I think the crux of it is that people get confused and use 'tone' and 'style' concurrently to mean the same thing. And clearly they are not. If I play my bass through my little 25watt practice amp or through my gigging rig I'm playing in the same general style so to some extent I'm identifiable as 'me' (plodding weekend warrior) but the tone from the two set ups are miles apart. If I swapped from rounds to flats I'd sound different again. Neither are anything to do with my fingers.

Ian Anderson did a very creditable job on those tracks that JG was too ill to record on Stormwatch though. Dark Ages is a cracking bassline from someone not normally associated with bass playing. back to JG though, some belters on Too Old To Rock n Roll, SFTW, Heavy Horses. You can really feel the train going along on Journeyman for instance... [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U200PtLtcFA"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U200PtLtcFA[/url]

I'm sure I've nominated him under various 'unsung heroes' type threads on here before. Also check out his pre-Tull work with Carmen. They toured with Tull which is probably where JG got noticed as a potential future member (happens a lot). I tried to casually pick up some of his lines from those Tull albums and they are often not as easy as they might seem. I think I gave up on Acres Wild, the timing is a bitch to get spot on. It was one of the reasons I got nudged to try out a Stingray but I think a lot of his lines were actually recorded on a P anyway.

I've held on to my Ric for some reason even though it hasn't been main gigging bass for nearly 10 years. I just know that some band will come up where I need [i]that[/i] sound and it'll be a pain to get one at a sensible price. It's not entirely neglected, take it to jams now and again, people like playing it.

Often wondered about this myself. Are the old mixer amps that you see that only have jack inputs (so you have to use a mic lead with XLR at one end and a jack on the other) wired differently internally so these are not 'line level' inputs even though they have a jack socket? I had to use one of these with last band and I honestly couldn't say i noticed any difference this way compared with using all XLR's with mics to a desk in previous bands. It's obviously become the convention to do it this way though.

I only live about 30 min drive from Donington - I did feel for those I saw standing at bus stops in the drizzle on Sunday obviously on their way over! I think Saturday was probably even worse, it was still raining when I drove up to Sheffield in the evening to see a gig. I've not been since '88 when two people died in the mud...

It's in the new band's set that I've joined. I imagine it will go down fine with their expected target audience.

My precision is both all maple neck and made in USA. I like the feel of it and the sound it makes. It wouldn't bother me if it felt and sounded the same but happened to have 'made in mexico' on it, or 'Squier' come to that. It's just a tool.

Got a couple of their albums, keep meaning to catch them live but not had chance yet. Got that Allmans/Black Crowes vibe going on in places.

[quote name='neilp' timestamp='1434316253' post='2798645'] +1 for Riders On The Storm. The notes aren't at all hard, but if it's not absolutely precise and controlled, it's a waste of time and the rest of the band will murder you! [/quote] Wouldn't worry toomuch, I'm sure I 've seen an interview with Jerry Scheff where he says he struggled with it at first when it was presented to him. It's a fairly 'natural' pattern for someone to play with left hand on a keyboard (which I assume was how Manzarek would have created it) but doesn't translate easily to a 4 string fretboard.

Audio files can usually be extracted from youtube, there are various online free packages for doing it. If the sound quality is good enough then it's just a matter of separating the tracks with something like wavepad, saving them as a wav file and burn them to a disk. Or you could convert to mp3 at source and just load them into itunes or whatever.

Saw them on this tour and to be honest it was a lot better than the previous one where they were playing a large chunk of the latest album. The problem is these days they seem to play some of the material noticeably slower than it was originally recorded at and it just seems a bit laboured. None of us getting any younger mind...

Nice gig Steve and decent support from The Room, must get to a few more CRS events. My first was in the late 90's - where does the time go!

[quote name='Mr. Foxen' timestamp='1367164952' post='2061981'] Does the upside down headstock cover them? [/quote] I think it's a 4001 C64 model which are genuinely like that, even the right handed ones. Not photoshopped.

Think I'm getting very close to 'the chop' but I've been saying that for the last 5 years at least...

I might just nip up for this one, seen a few bands at Maltby it's a nice little venue and iirc a Wetherspoons not far from it..

I might consider it if I was in a band like Showaddywaddy or Darts. But I won't be.

With such a big back catalog of arrangements it's entirely probable that the orchestra will go on long after the man is no longer with us, much like Glenn Miller. There are no individuals among the musicians that are specifically linked to that band alone really so they can all change at various times as long as the overrall enemble can produce [i]that[/i] sound and there is still an audience out there for them.

Always liked Tears Of A Clown and War with BB on bass.

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