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[quote name='EvilSmile' timestamp='1461506869' post='3035219']... is it possible to have the pdf/jpeg of the correctly formatted music?... [/quote] Certainly; see attached 'pdf' (again, download and change the suffix...) [attachment=217697:Mist_Fx_1.pdf]

[quote name='Bill Fitzmaurice' timestamp='1461502105' post='3035172']...he will still give you something that no one on the stage can: a set of ears in the audience. [/quote] Just as an example of added value, many singers can benefit from a spot of reverb or delay (or both..?) ; even better if it's dosed for the right moment in a song. On the other hand, for making announcements, or 'banter', a rather dry mic is often the better choice. A sympathetic bloke on the console can juggle any relevant fx, enhancing the overall performance. No, not indispensable for many pub gigs, but when it's done right, it's worth having someone do it. Just sayin'.

[quote name='EvilSmile' timestamp='1461500035' post='3035140']...I'm all ears! [/quote] Here you go; try these (download and re-name as a 'zip' file; it's the System that friggs up the file extension like that...)... [attachment=217687:Mist_Fx_1.zip] Unzip to get the GP file + the Xml file. The first half is 'Misty', for reference, followed by the same, but with an example of pretty well every effect on the bas track. Sounds 'orrible, but you guessed that, anyway. Get back to me if there's a problem, or if you need more... Hope this helps.

[quote name='chris_b' timestamp='1461494907' post='3035073']...get an amp that makes a great sound and lets you sound like you, not someone else. [/quote] But the fellow said, in his original post ... [quote name='danbanbass' timestamp='1461364132' post='3034146']...I play in a Foo fighters tribute band and can't get it to sound right.... [/quote] ... so is obviously trying to sound like the Foo Fighter's bassist. Just sayin'.

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[quote name='bubinga5' timestamp='1461450963' post='3034821'] i haven't checked that fact but I'm sure there was Doug.! I've just spoken to you about this. whats the matter matey.? [/quote] No, you're addressing DarkHeart now. I left, on the tips of my toes.

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I wanted (new, at the time...) Verithins when I was younger. I have them now; we grow old together. Same thing for the amps. An old Hiwatt is still a fine amp, vintage or not. My Camco drums are vintage, now. I bought them brand new over 40 years ago. They're still the best (for me...).

I was intrigued by the harshness of the criticism of the videos; enough to have a look and listen for myself. Disclaimer: I'm not a BD customer, and play drums in a different country, so I'm not biased towards or against. Still, there is, in my humble opinion, not much to be said in defence of what I saw. It's left channel only, which puts one off immediately. The playing is not demonstrative of the bass's potential, consisting of a few seconds of 'noodling', either over the bridge pick-up, or slapping/popping. No real exploitation of the controls, not much variation to show a decent range of styles, just 'noodling'. Given the limited styles on display, there's very little to distinguish one bass from another; the recorded quality (even allowing for it being Youtube...) doesn't bring out much in the way of nuance in tone. One would assume that all are going through the same amp/cab..? Altogether bland, or slightly less. I would be surprised if anyone would buy a bass, or even enquire further, on the basis of these. It's true that I didn't watch every single one; only a a dozen or so, chosen at random. A shame, as it could be a decent 'shop window' if done with a bit more rigour. Very odd, in light of the shop's high reputation in all other aspects. Disappointing.

[quote name='warwickhunt' timestamp='1461358785' post='3034104'] I'm not sure the component/spec of top quality PA gear is the same ball park as bass amps. [/quote] Playing bass through a DI into the PA, the public could well be hearing the 'heft' of a Crown K2, whatever is used on stage.

Same here; our eldest (Guitar 1...) does the sound, usually, or I can do it if he's busy with whatever. We've both held consoles for festivals, so a voice+drums pub set-up is a doddle. We play for free, of course, so an equal split for an engi is easy enough to work out, though..!

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[quote name='gelfin' timestamp='1461321654' post='3033626'] You can either use two speaker cables using both speaker outputs on the amp or you can daisy chain the speakers from one speaker output. Both ways your amp will see [s]8ohms[/s] 4 ohms. [/quote] Fixed.

[quote name='Billy Apple' timestamp='1461263648' post='3033144'] Oh, yes, sorry. Well, is the badge officially licentious? [/quote] More of an off-license job, I'd say.

[quote name='blue' timestamp='1461261336' post='3033104']... I use a short high quality patch from my bass to the transmitter... [/quote] Yes, Dave (OBBM...) makes those, too.

Our PA is a pair of HK Power Works RS152X,rated at 300W each, and that's all, for FOH. We use these for pubs, clubs and even intimate outdoor gigs, such as garden parties and such. We usual mic up the bass drum and one overhead, just to integrate the drums more fully into the stage presence. Other than that, it's voice only; the two guitars are half-stacks, the bass a 200w Hiwatt valve amp into a 2 x 15 HH cab. We've never felt the need for a sub of any kind (the bass drum itself provides a decent amount of low frequencies as it is..!); we play '80s pop/rock such as Radiohead, AC/DC, RATM, Sound Garden, Noir Désir, Bashung and much more. No, we don't play at dizzy volumes, but we're not that soft, either. Subs have their uses (in cinemas, for earthquake FX..?), but add nothing to a pub gig, in my opinion and experience, except for very specific repertoires, such as death metal and the like. Put a bass drum mic through the PA by all means, but don't think it'll add bass; that's not what is wanted. The sub frequencies 'thud' is not useful in those venues.

Just as there are amateur bassists (weekend warriors...), there are also amateur sound guys. I know several; most of them are very competent, especially in venues such as pubs and the like. The Royal Albert Hall with a full orchestra would be off the scale for most, but for pub rock (and more...), I'd have no trouble rounding up a couple of volunteers, either benevolent, or for pocket money. It's not [i]that [/i]hard to learn, either, if the fellow's keen and willing, and has anything like a decent set of ears. Not the same for a national touring band, I'll allow.

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[quote name='peteb' timestamp='1461224929' post='3032537'] On the other hand, if you join a gigging band that [b]aren't [/b]perfect for you then at least you are out there getting experience and getting your face known to put you in the frame for when the right opportunity [i]does [/i]present itself. [/quote] Fixed (I think; make little sense otherwise...).

[quote name='blue' timestamp='1461199912' post='3032443'] No, but an option to consider.... [/quote] ...as is the very excellent [url="http://www.smoothhound-innovations.com/"]Smooth Hound system[/url], but ... [quote name='Malcspring1' timestamp='1461001337' post='3030549']...Cost is not the only consideration, but I don't want to be spending megamoney... [/quote]