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Cheers man, appreciate it. So what of the models made after 2012 - the model that preceded the American Originals, what were they called?

Nev chucked a L2 at Arnie van Bussel in the shop - "hey Arn, catch" I think the touring Bassist for the Allman Brothers(?) had his gear run over by an 18 wheeler but it didn't break the Steinberger neck ( will try and verify it was in USA Bass Player)

Thanks guys! They're only 15 so learning everyday!

Pale Shelter - Tears For Fears

The singer & guitar player, Mark, is a friend of a very close friend. I’ve heard great things about the band and would go and see them if I still lived down south.

The most troublesome and yet least important thing a band faces. Been there, compromised on that, numerous times. I’m still trying to get someone to use Post Burrito Depression (one of Tony Levin’s spares).

We shall see.

Exactly this 👍

Thanks for the tips. Ill get on to writing out charts for the songs giving me trouble. Next challenge, thinking of a band name we all like.

It seems they are. But the content is solid, they’re not teaching bad habits. The online world is a minefield at the best of times so I wouldn’t take the chance on anyone else.

White Wedding - Billy Idol

Back in the early 70's it was a tuning fork at home. On gigs/shows it was a case of tuning to the keyboard player (back then that could mean a Rhodes Piano, Wurlitzer electric Piano, various Organs, or Uprights & Grands). If no Keys around, unfortunately you were at the mercy of the Guitarist, or two. That could get very interesting! In each individual case, it was usually down to, "Give us a 'G', Dave (or whoever)". I would then tune my open G or a G harmonic to the other Instrument and work down from that.

I See Red - Split Enz

True blue - Madonna

Roland V Bass system and the GK pick-up shop soiled from PMT (Leeds I think, around 2008).

True Colours - Cyndi Lauper

Yes, including a metronome. There are most likely similar units available today.

I have a load of Crimson guitar tools and hosco nut files I did their 3 day fret level/ refret course. I learned lots so can do all my guitars now

direct from JHS (I'm an endorsee)

I never knew the 4000 had a set neck till recently

In my U2 tribute I have written sheets to help me, as we do live versions of the tracks (and many live versions are different with U2) the more I practice them, the more I can visualise the sheets