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I recently switched from the Zoom B1 four to the Boss gt 1b. I'm loving the Boss. It sounds great and I di straight into the desk. It's very flexible, using control pedals or the built in pedal to assign to whay you want. But it only has 2 fx channels (delay. Overdrive and reverb are separate switches) so unlike the Zoom you can have oct>chorus>phaser>wah>synth (if you were mad enough!), but that's not really been a problem. The Boss synth isn't as flexible as the Zoom. Overall I prefer the Boss.

My band has worked the other way. You can only purchase one of our CDs by actually coming to a gig, and both of the CDs were are currently selling have "bonus features". "Lost Souls" includes a remix of one of our most popular songs that is only available by buying the CD, and "Robert Smith's Eyes" has special packaging that can't be replicated by an on-line image. It's a strategy that appears to be working. We expect to sell out of "Lost Souls" after the next 2-3 gigs and after 2 gigs we've sold almost a third of the copies of "Robert Smith's Eyes". Currently we are not selling physical copies of either single on line, mostly because the P&P even in the UK would double the cost of the CD. We may reconsider when our album is released, but until then if you want a physical copy you need to come to one of our gigs. However as I have already said, you need to tailor your releases to what your audience wants. Our audience are still into buying CDs so they are worth producing.

I'm not sure that all of the words in this sentence were necessary...... ...and i'd like to have seen Mr Nifield say this face to face to the band themselves

Here's the rub...I'm not well off and can't afford to spend a ton of money on a bass that'll get used once in a blue moon. I want a cheap bass to teach with, because I only have 5-string basses at the moment and it's proved to be confusing for learners to follow along. Half the replies have been snarky and elitist, which is sub-optimal. If you have nothing to add to the conversation scroll on. Bit sad that you have nothing better to do with your time than trash other people's questions and ideas. 🤷‍♂️ Big thanks to Russ and Paul for their objective input, though.

The Stranglers come to Wales.

But look how accurately it follows the shape of the pickguard. That's been put on with attention to detail that has.

I think you definitely need to try and find a way of trying them both. They are really different basses, the feel very different to play and sound quite unalike, particularly the 5's. No Basschatter will be able to help you with that stuff. You can't go wrong with an SSI (think Spector, only with character ) but the Thumb is my favourite. But they're unique marmite basses, for sure.

I'm used to the traditional analogue desks, so an XR18 may do things differently, but, for me, once the gain has been set for any particular input (usually a mic...), it won't need touching, as long as the same input is used each time. I don't see how you're getting feedback if everyone is using IEM; if it's from the FOH, can the XR18 output not be reduced, instead of touching the active cabs..? There's something rotten in the state of Denmark not quite right, somewhere. If the levels for the vocals have been set first, with the guitars, and there's no feedback, it would appear to be the addition of the drums that set it off. If that's the case, can't the drums then be backed off a little..? Are the drums leaking into the vocal mics, fully exposed if there's no singer in front of 'em..? Which individual mic(s...) are feeding back..? They are what needs addressing, not the FOH cabs. Do any of the group know what 'ringing out' is, and how to do it..? Inviting a decent sound person along for a gig or two to sort it all out would be beneficial, I'd suggest, and/or a course in PA set-up.

Done gigs where I've the basics (line check/30 seconds of something including a chorus) and the fuller thing (a couple of songs in full). In the main we've always used house engineers and generally they're on a needs must basis. In all cases, small room/big room, it's generally to an empty room, or at the very least the other bands/hangers on. Obviously the room dynamics will change once there's some people in, but by and large a decent sound guy will be able to sort that out on the fly.

Everybody's Carrying A Gun - Wilko Johnson & Roger Daltrey

Far too late 😂 They use an XR18. I’ve been using one for 10 years and when I mentioned we should be using the gains, the reaction was that we should get an engineer in to set it all up. Now I’m very capable of doing that but I think they believe it only needs doing once and then it can be left like that forever. Maybe they’ve misunderstood using ‘scenes’? I’ve even took mine into rehearsals and set it all up, sorted all the in ears etc but they won’t use that desk because they know their desk gets a good sound? It’s a very odd situation. Voodoo almost 😂

Shoot You In The Back - Motorhead

Just to be contrary here: I'm a Helix user and do the bulk of my programming using HX edit on the computer. The Presets and Snapshots are fine-tuned from the Helix controls in the rehearsal room once I see how they work (or not) with the rest of the band playing. In anticipation of this I make sure that any parameter that I might want to alter is already assigned to the "Snapshot" setting so that changing it only changes the setting for a particular snapshot and not the whole Preset. That way I can fine-tune the Snapshots for a new song after a couple of run-throughs.

thanks all, got my answers, mods can close topic BC still a GREAT forum!

The dark night colour is great (more than great), but please get that sticker off... it's got me scratching at the screen!

Presumably it's too late to tell them to RTFM?

I've got a black Sonic P on it's way to me this week. I hatched a plan to buy a cheap P to put all the decent P bits and bobs that I've accumulated over the years on. I bought a Harley Benton pB-20 bk but that's going back. Too much finishing off work than I can be bothered with plus I didn't get on with the forearm contour anyway. Hopefully my Sonic will be as light and straight as all yours here 🤞 Will do a nbd when all is good. Great info on this thread, thanks!

One of my bandmates is in a (much younger and trendier) band. They hit number 1 in the UK physical singles chart last year with an EP. (CD) It was recorded 'as live' at a well known studio but was still surprisingly affordable. At our last gig he told me it had broken even at last. The two biggest financial boosts they have had are a creative industries grant and being playlisted by Radio 1. Everything is being reinvested in the band and they are gigging like mad*. *which is a pita as it means the band we are both in isn't gigging much.