hankhill Posted 17 hours ago Posted 17 hours ago Here’s one for discussion. I’m restringing one of my P basses, normally I like my windings to look neat and tidy but in this case the E string seems to be taking a deep dive over the nut when wound bottom to top like this (photo). Should I be winding the E top to bottom, to reduce the angle over the nut, or am I worrying too much? Quote
neepheid Posted 17 hours ago Posted 17 hours ago You're worrying too much - there's only a problem with break angle over the nut when there isn't enough of it. 4 Quote
ezbass Posted 16 hours ago Posted 16 hours ago 46 minutes ago, neepheid said: there's only a problem with break angle over the nut when there isn't enough of it. ^^^^ this. Quote
MartinB Posted 13 hours ago Posted 13 hours ago 3 hours ago, Grahambythesea said: Too many windings, 3 is enough. ☝️ Press each string down on either side of the nut as well, so that it doesn't curve like a banana over the top. Reduces your chance of weird chorus-y noises. Same thing at the saddles too. 3 1 Quote
Lozz196 Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago 1 hour ago, MartinB said: ☝️ Press each string down on either side of the nut as well, so that it doesn't curve like a banana over the top. Reduces your chance of weird chorus-y noises. Same thing at the saddles too. I’m going to try this as have a bit of a chorusy sound on my A string. In all the years I’ve been playing I never knew this. Quote
Stub Mandrel Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago 6 hours ago, Grahambythesea said: Too many windings, 3 is enough. I usually go for 1 ½. Have never had an E-string slip. Quote
paul_5 Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago Always wind to the bottom of the tuning peg, and check that the strings aren't in torsion (twisted) when they go through the bridge. I do this by getting the string tight enough to produce a pitch (not anywhere near the final tuning), grip the string between my thumb and forefinger and run them down the length of the string from the nut to the bridge - when the ball end spins then you're taking the unnecessary twist from the string. Doesn't happen everytime I re-string, but it's worth doing every time, just in case. 3 Quote
chris_b Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago 17 minutes ago, paul_5 said: Always wind to the bottom of the tuning peg, and check that the strings aren't in torsion (twisted) when they go through the bridge. I do this by getting the string tight enough to produce a pitch (not anywhere near the final tuning), grip the string between my thumb and forefinger and run them down the length of the string from the nut to the bridge - when the ball end spins then you're taking the unnecessary twist from the string. Doesn't happen everytime I re-string, but it's worth doing every time, just in case. This. I prefer 2 windings around the post. Locate the string in the tuning peg with just one wind then hold the string so the bridge end is free and can untwist and straighten out. Then tune up. I can't remember the last time I had a dead string. Quote
Musicman666 Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago i try not to cut the strings too much ...got caught out a few times when transferring from say a stingray to a jazz ..i just make sure that the capstan is always top to bottom even when there is a string tree ..force of habit. Quote
BigRedX Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago The break angle over the nut needs to be sufficient to hold the string in place whilst not reducing the compliance of the string. If you look at the first photo in the OP you'll see that the G and D strings pass under a string retainer and therefore their break angle is fixed by the position of the string retainer. Since this is obviously a sufficient angle, it follows that ideally the E and A strings should have the same break angle. That means the A string should probably have one more turn around the post and the E one less. 1 Quote
hankhill Posted 9 minutes ago Author Posted 9 minutes ago All good input, thanks everyone. Believe it or not I’ve actually been playing bass for 49 years, but like most non-pro players, string changes are quite a rare occurrence! Quote
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