Stub Mandrel Posted Friday at 13:10 Posted Friday at 13:10 (edited) 55 minutes ago, AinsleyWalker said: on electric basses they have been almost solely cosmetic (Jazz bass) or to hide routing (P bass). Exactly... many are cosmetic- TZ's routing only claim doesn't stack up. Egen if you don't like them they aren't all there to cover routing. Edited Friday at 13:11 by Stub Mandrel Quote
tauzero Posted Friday at 14:41 Posted Friday at 14:41 1 hour ago, Stub Mandrel said: Exactly... many are cosmetic- TZ's routing only claim doesn't stack up. Egen if you don't like them they aren't all there to cover routing. OK, they're either there to cover routing or to try to make it look like your bass was made on the cheap by pretending they're covering routing. They're still an affront to, well, everything. 1 Quote
spencer.b Posted Friday at 15:04 Posted Friday at 15:04 (edited) I know it's irrational and it's all down to personal taste and I know I'm the d!CK here but this is s safe space right? Custom colour fender basses should have white/mint guards , look in the books , nearly all white guards , why oh why do people put tort on them, sunburst, yeah tort of course, Olympic white beautiful, fiesta red OK I'll let it pass there is the odd one (although more than likely a sunburst bass refinished by the distributor like selmer or kitchens to order when new) but Daphne Blue , all wrong .Candy Apple Red are you f***!ng serious, Shoreline gold, I feel sick Apart from looking all wrong the celluloid tort is really hard to replicate unless you drop a fortune on a spitfire, why oh why do fender put awful cheap looking tort guards on custom shop custom colour basses , with an aged mint guard you'd have to get close to tell it wasn't the real thing ,with a tort one it catches my eye a mile off Sorry everyone! (I must admit I'm part of the problem here, I too am complicit in the illegal fender trade, one of my 5 p basses is a surf green Custom Shop which has a 10 hole gold anodised,all wrong , what were fender thinking, it would look the nuts with white/mint and with the period correct bevel , oof , but can I find a 10 hole mint guard , can I f***!!) Edited Friday at 20:16 by spencer.b 2 1 Quote
Jack Posted Friday at 15:10 Posted Friday at 15:10 Same. Tort looks great, when it looks great. Sunburst, black, white. They're pretty much the only finishes that work IMO. It's like wearing tan leather loafers with a tracksuit, both of which are sensible fashion choices in the right circumstances but those circumstances should never align. 1 Quote
MichaelDean Posted Friday at 15:11 Posted Friday at 15:11 6 minutes ago, spencer.b said: I know it's irrational and it's all down to personal taste and I know I'm the d!CK here but this is s safe space right? Custom colour fender basses should have white/mint guards , look in the books , nearly all white guards , why oh why do people put tort on them, sunburst, yeah tort of course, Olympic white beautiful, fiesta red OK I'll let it pass there is the odd one (although more than likely a sunburst bass refinished by the distributor like selmer or kitchens to order when new) but Daphne Blue , all wrong . Shoreline gold, I feel sick Apart from looking all wrong the celluloid tort is really hard to replicate unless you drop a fortune on a spitfire, why oh why do fender put awful cheap looking tort guards on custom shop custom colour basses , with an aged mint guard you'd have to get close to tell it wasn't the real thing with a tort one it catches my eye a mile off Sorry everyone! I'm the opposite. White/mint guards are very rarely acceptible to me! They remind me of cheap starter basses from when I started. Black is generallly my preference. Never had a tort, but I wouldn't say no if a bass I wanted had one. 1 Quote
Stub Mandrel Posted Friday at 15:16 Posted Friday at 15:16 4 minutes ago, Jack said: It's like wearing tan leather loafers with a tracksuit, both of which are sensible fashion choices in the right circumstances Ok I can see a case for a tracksuit if competing at an athletics event, but tan leather loafers? Quote
spencer.b Posted Friday at 15:41 Posted Friday at 15:41 (edited) 4 hours ago, MichaelDean said: I'm the opposite. White/mint guards are very rarely acceptible to me! They remind me of cheap starter basses from when I started. Black is generallly my preference. Never had a tort, but I wouldn't say no if a bass I wanted had one. One of my p basses is a JV in black with white guard and it does look a bit Argos tbf Edited Friday at 19:41 by spencer.b Quote
Chienmortbb Posted Friday at 15:43 Posted Friday at 15:43 Jazz basses, always look like the plate really wanted a Stratocaster. Quote
Chienmortbb Posted Friday at 15:44 Posted Friday at 15:44 1 minute ago, spencer.b said: One of my p basses is JV in black with white guard and it does look a bit Argos tbf My Kala U Bass is black with white guard and it is a common thing online for people wanting to change it. Quote
snorkie635 Posted Friday at 16:55 Posted Friday at 16:55 Tort, white, black, gold aluminium - you pays your money and takes your choice. Some folks will love some of these and others will hate them. 3 Quote
Misdee Posted Friday at 17:11 Posted Friday at 17:11 (edited) 25 minutes ago, snorkie635 said: Tort, white, black, gold aluminium - you pays your money and takes your choice. Some folks will love some of these and others will hate them. I approve of those choices, except for the sunburst/black combo. Mid-to-late '70's Fender is a rational prejudice as far as I am concerned. I hope you didn't pay a lot of money for it!😄 If you like I could be really annoying and regail you with what I could have bought that bass for back in the eighties (£200 tops). Myself, I can't abide red basses with tort guards. It's too much redness, like it wants to give me heartburn. Edited Friday at 17:21 by Misdee 1 1 Quote
snorkie635 Posted Friday at 17:25 Posted Friday at 17:25 13 minutes ago, Misdee said: I approve of those choices, except for the sunburst/black combo. Mid-to-late '70's Fender is a rational prejudice as far as I am concerned. I hope you didn't pay a lot of money for it!😄 If you like I could be really annoying and regail you with what I could have bought that bass for back in the eighties (£200 tops). Myself, I can't abide red basses with tort guards. It's too much redness, like it wants to give me heartburn. What I bought my house for in the 70s, makes grown men cry. 😎 1 Quote
prowla Posted Friday at 17:34 Posted Friday at 17:34 2 hours ago, spencer.b said: I know it's irrational and it's all down to personal taste and I know I'm the d!CK here but this is s safe space right? Custom colour fender basses should have white/mint guards , look in the books , nearly all white guards , why oh why do people put tort on them, sunburst, yeah tort of course, Olympic white beautiful, fiesta red OK I'll let it pass there is the odd one (although more than likely a sunburst bass refinished by the distributor like selmer or kitchens to order when new) but Daphne Blue , all wrong .Candy Apple Red are you f***!ng serious, Shoreline gold, I feel sick Apart from looking all wrong the celluloid tort is really hard to replicate unless you drop a fortune on a spitfire, why oh why do fender put awful cheap looking tort guards on custom shop custom colour basses , with an aged mint guard you'd have to get close to tell it wasn't the real thing with a tort one it catches my eye a mile off Sorry everyone! It's torture, I tell you! 2 Quote
Misdee Posted Friday at 17:47 Posted Friday at 17:47 People put tort plates on just about any Fender colour now because it's become synonymous with the nebulous concept which is "vintage". Historically, Fender did indeed ship most of its custom colour basses with mint/parchment pick guards. Bear in mind that most colours except sunburst were actually custom colours, including black. Some black Fenders were sent out with tort plates, but usually only as customer's special orders through Fender dealers. That's why finding an all original vintage P Bass or Jazz Bass in black/tort is so hard. They do exist, but they are very, very rare. But if you look at Fender's vintage reissues you would think they were commonplace. 1 Quote
snorkie635 Posted Friday at 18:59 Posted Friday at 18:59 1 hour ago, Misdee said: People put tort plates on just about any Fender colour now because it's become synonymous with the nebulous concept which is "vintage". Historically, Fender did indeed ship most of its custom colour basses with mint/parchment pick guards. Bear in mind that most colours except sunburst were actually custom colours, including black. Some black Fenders were sent out with tort plates, but usually only as customer's special orders through Fender dealers. That's why finding an all original vintage P Bass or Jazz Bass in black/tort is so hard. They do exist, but they are very, very rare. But if you look at Fender's vintage reissues you would think they were commonplace. I think I'll commission a tort bass with a black plate. 🤔 4 Quote
Reggaebass Posted Friday at 19:23 Posted Friday at 19:23 23 minutes ago, snorkie635 said: I think I'll commission a tort bass with a black plate. 🤔 With matching headstock of course 4 Quote
Misdee Posted Friday at 19:34 Posted Friday at 19:34 29 minutes ago, snorkie635 said: I think I'll commission a tort bass with a black plate. 🤔 People would probably love it - extra vintage. I'm a sucker for a black/tort P Bass ever since I saw footage of Deep Purple and the LSO at the Royal Albert Hall and Roger Glover is sporting a beautiful example. Also George Murray with David Bowie. Both big influences on the young Misdee plunking away on the bass in his bedroom. Quote
snorkie635 Posted Friday at 19:40 Posted Friday at 19:40 3 minutes ago, Misdee said: People would probably love it - extra vintage. I'm a sucker for a black/tort P Bass ever since I saw footage of Deep Purple and the LSO at the Royal Albert Hall and Roger Glover is sporting a beautiful example. Also George Murray with David Bowie. Both big influences on the young Misdee plunking away on the bass in his bedroom. The black / tort combo works well on the bass on the front-left - sounds great as well. I have @Stub Mandrel to thank for giving me a heads-up there. 1 Quote
EBS_freak Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 2 hours ago, mike f said: Items for sale that are visibly dirty. "Mint. (just ignore the dirt and scratches)" Bassdirect have had some clangers in the past. Mint. And then in description, chipped paint, buckle rash, dented headstock. Quote
Dad3353 Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago Doesn't 'mint' mean that it's got a hole in the middle..? ... Quote
snorkie635 Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 29 minutes ago, Dad3353 said: Doesn't 'mint' mean that it's got a hole in the middle..? ... That means my undies are minted. 1 Quote
mike f Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 36 minutes ago, EBS_freak said: "Mint. (just ignore the dirt and scratches)" Bassdirect have had some clangers in the past. Mint. And then in description, chipped paint, buckle rash, dented headstock. Wear and tear, scratches, dints and the like I can stand. I just can’t get my head around, and will not buy, items that haven’t even had a duster over them. “Item for sale, dust, pubes, dog hairs and dead skin included”. 1 Quote
snorkie635 Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 2 minutes ago, mike f said: Wear and tear, scratches, dints and the like I can stand. I just can’t get my head around, and will not buy, items that haven’t even had a duster over them. “Item for sale, dust, pubes, dog hairs and dead skin included”. Back to my undies again! 2 Quote
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