lowdown Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 (edited) As well as all of his various musical, production and composing skills (for others as well), he had a pretty impressive, tuneful, vocal range... Edited July 31, 2023 by lowdown 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diskwave Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 Well this is a forum so discussion is encouraged and that means dissent is never far away..haha! With the exception of 1999, for me his music never really gets going, never really sounds cool compared to the likes of MJ, Luther, Barry White, EW&F and a whole raft of black groove artists that have shaped my playing experience over the decades... I guess he's just too quirky, experimental if you like for my tastes. Anyway tin hat firmly affixed.. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geek99 Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 I get the showmanship thing, less impressed by the content 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tauzero Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 3 hours ago, greavesbass said: Well this is a forum so discussion is encouraged and that means dissent is never far away..haha! With the exception of 1999, for me his music never really gets going, never really sounds cool compared to the likes of MJ, Luther, Barry White, EW&F and a whole raft of black groove artists that have shaped my playing experience over the decades... I guess he's just too quirky, experimental if you like for my tastes. Anyway tin hat firmly affixed.. 2 hours ago, Geek99 said: I get the showmanship thing, less impressed by the content You do know that the full weight of the Basschat Thought Police will be dropped on you from a great height, don't you? I had the audacity to say that some of his stuff was twee and cheesy a few years ago, never thought I'd hear the end of it. He has undoubtedly come up with some good stuff, but then again Nilo has occasionally written a coherent and logical sentence. I'm unwilling to subject myself to his entire oeuvre in order to work out what proportion is really good stuff and what is twee filler. IMNSHO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geek99 Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 4 minutes ago, tauzero said: You do know that the full weight of the Basschat Thought Police will be dropped on you from a great height, don't you? I had the audacity to say that some of his stuff was twee and cheesy a few years ago, never thought I'd hear the end of it. He has undoubtedly come up with some good stuff, but then again Nilo has occasionally written a coherent and logical sentence. I'm unwilling to subject myself to his entire oeuvre in order to work out what proportion is really good stuff and what is twee filler. IMNSHO. Thank you. I don’t give a foxtrot unicorn Charlie kilo what they think of my opinion, I defend their right to think differently Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diskwave Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 Ha.. its all a walk in the park compared to Talkbass. This type of blasphemus behaviour over there would downright dangerous to ones health. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGreek Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 To paraphrase Gus in "My Big Fat Greek Wedding" - "I don't mind you disagreeing with me if you don't mind being wrong..." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geek99 Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 4 minutes ago, TheGreek said: To paraphrase Gus in "My Big Fat Greek Wedding" - "I don't mind you disagreeing with me if you don't mind being wrong..." I don’t think they’re wrong to hold their opinion, and it’s not necessarily wrong. Maybe I am; I just don’t think his canon matches the promise. Like when you see a great looking steaming mug of coffee that isn’t as good tasting as it looks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wingnutkj Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 On 30/07/2023 at 08:59, toneknob said: Lets Go Crazy from the 3rdEyeBlind tour (which I was lucky enough to see at the Roundhouse). Features Ida Neilsen bass solo! I was lucky enough to see one of the secret "hit and run" gigs with 3rdEyeGirl. I'd been working just outside London for the weekend, and I had a free Sunday because we'd finished ahead of schedule. He'd played a few unannounced shows around London already that weekend, and the rumour was that he'd be doing Koko in Camden on the Sunday. Turned up. Queued, got in for the first show. They started with Let's Go Crazy, and Ida Neilsen's bass solo was one of the best distorted bass tones I've ever heard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wingnutkj Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 (edited) Here's some 90s Prince from Mark Radcliffe's White Room on Channel 4: Edited August 1, 2023 by wingnutkj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wingnutkj Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 (edited) ..and some depravity: Edited August 1, 2023 by wingnutkj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BassTractor Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 (edited) Quite possibly I'm with one foot in several camps. I think his musicality is exquisitely refined, but his output seems to me to not reflect a lot of depth and also to bring much sameness. I think he could be a lot more interesting if he wanted to, but maybe he didn't want to. Bought and enjoy "Around the World in a Day", and enjoyed "Sign o' the Times", which seemed interesting, but haven't listened to it more than a few times, so it might grow on me more if I listened more and more closely. Don't really know much of his other stuff, but again and again record live shows from the tv, and then delete them quickly again. BTW, really can't stand that Purple Rain melody snippet "purple rain, purple rain" (1-2-3----, 3-2-1----), and duck and cover when it comes on somewhere. Oh, the fave! I forgot. This version of Raspberry Beret may be as good as any. Edited August 1, 2023 by BassTractor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowdown Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 The fellow always managed to have top musicians and tight bands on the stage with him: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hiram.k.hackenbacker Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 Been posted many times before, but no,Prince thread is complete without…. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hiram.k.hackenbacker Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 On 29/07/2023 at 20:28, TheGreek said: Nobody is claiming he was "the best", I think we all accept how futile this claim is, however if you, or any other contributor to this discussion, believe there is a more accomplished musician, in diversity, in range of instruments played or ability, then I'm open to listening to your nomination. Frank Vincent Zappa. Check mate. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGreek Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 He's on the list but below Prince. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_b Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 4 hours ago, wingnutkj said: Here's some 90s Prince from Mark Radcliffe's White Room on Channel 4: With the amazing Sonny T on bass and Michael Bland on drums. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor J Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 2 hours ago, TheGreek said: He's on the list but below Prince. Only if one holds it upside-down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BassTractor Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 (edited) 4 hours ago, TheGreek said: He's on the list but below Prince. Zappa: "Hey, Princy! Could I get lessons from you? You know, I can't get to grips with this I, IV, V, I stuff that's so popular these days. With teaspoons, eh? I'm a bit slow." 😉 Edited August 1, 2023 by BassTractor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubinga5 Posted August 1, 2023 Author Share Posted August 1, 2023 (edited) On 29/07/2023 at 17:19, Dan Dare said: Hmmm. He was extremely good, but better than everyone everywhere "in our times"? From all countries/cultures, all types of music, etc? That's too bold a claim. If you read what I said, because im really aware of what I say, because I word it very carefully. What you have done is put in a couple of words and some other stuff that you seemed to have made up to make it sound like I made a bold claim. Have a re read of what I said and have a think Dan. I say what I think and its usually really honest. Edited August 1, 2023 by bubinga5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubinga5 Posted August 1, 2023 Author Share Posted August 1, 2023 On 31/07/2023 at 17:13, lowdown said: As well as all of his various musical, production and composing skills (for others as well), he had a pretty impressive, tuneful, vocal range... Stunning. Has always been a favorite of mine. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Frank Blank Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 a) Who is the best guitarist or not or where they rank on someone's list is purely subjective. b) No one musician is inherently better than any other, just different, appealing, or not, to individual tastes. c) see a) and b). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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