Painy Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 Never thought it would happen, been into and played rock, metal and a bit of punk for the last 20 years (but always in fairness still enjoyed most styles of music I've come across to some degree) but jazz has always been a bit of an enigma to me. I've always appreciated the considerable skill demonstrated by those that play it (moondance exempted ) but it's always felt to me more like an interesting technical exercise than any kind of engaging or emotional experience. Just recently though I've been doing a bit of 'YouTube research' into a new amp which lead me to the Aguilar YouTube channel. There seems to be a certain prevalence amongst their demo videos for Fodera toting jazz virtuosos but I decided to have a listen anyway starting with guys I was at least fairly familiar with. Anyway, after watching a couple of videos by Felix Pastorius and Janek Gwizdala, I realised I'd listened to them not to hear how the Aguilar gear sounded as I'd intended, but just enjoying the music. Now I'm not about to hang up my proverbial leather trousers and buy myself a black turtle-neck and beret or anything but does anyone have any suggestions for listening material - ideally bass orientated but preferably not too slap happy? I'd also be interested in hearing any YouTube tuition videos that people can recommend for this style. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve-soar Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 Jazz when played with the right people, is an amazing experience, both for musicians and audience. Jazz, for me, is the total disregard for anything, other than tone and sound. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve-soar Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 composition comes into it but structure is there to be shredded Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cato Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 (edited) I recently discovered Herbie Hancock. The stuff he did with his Headhunters band is fantastic, it's very funky and has some great electric bass lines, although it's rarely,if ever the lead instrument. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GAlejqkd-gg Edited December 7, 2015 by Cato Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man Riva Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 [quote name='Cato' timestamp='1449528845' post='2924471'] I recently discovered Herbie Hancock. The stuff he did with his Headhunters band is fantastic, it's very funky and has some great electric baselines, although it's rarely,if ever the lead instrument. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GAlejqkd-gg [/quote] An album well worth getting hold of is the Fat Albert Rotunda LP. From 1969 it was originally written as the music to a Bill Cosby TV show. Funky, jazzy, cool and groovy it tends to get overlooked when HH's output gets discussed. Fat Mama is ace.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrevorR Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 Thoroughly recommend Abraham Laboriel's solo album Dear Friends (although that's probably as much funky as jazzy). Also, his band Koinonia's albums Frontline, Celebration and More Than A Feelin are worth hunting out. Also any of Mo Foster's solo albums are worth a listen but his first, Bel Assis is still my favourite of his. http://youtu.be/9TaovXWImAA http://youtu.be/rFAg_Oi_X_A http://youtu.be/GUuH0zkyVtM http://youtu.be/xGKilB2xalE http://youtu.be/pZpx-rswKiA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Number6 Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 I'm exactly the same.....been into metal, rock etc 30+ yrs. All of a sudden i can't get enough of Buddy Rich and his 1978 show in the Hague. Bizarre eh! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leftybassman392 Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 (edited) Yellowjackets. [url="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPA9z-jLPh4"]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPA9z-jLPh4[/url] Jamie Haslip, Robben Ford: what's not to like? Edited December 8, 2015 by leftybassman392 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve-bbb Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 [url="http://youtu.be/KukyTGJfGhE"]http://youtu.be/KukyTGJfGhE[/url] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bastav Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 (edited) [url="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hO_x3yUVgRM"]https://www.youtube....h?v=hO_x3yUVgRM[/url] Mwandishi period Hancock is really good IMO, nice bass playing by Buster Williams Or how bout some sun ra https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_KLSKSX2PM [url="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5vRHbQoTlc"]https://www.youtube....h?v=L5vRHbQoTlc[/url] Edited December 8, 2015 by Bastav Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bastav Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 also this is a fav line of mine https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4OjuCA-SsJM bass played by ron carter if im not mistaken Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cato Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 [quote name='Old Man Riva' timestamp='1449529336' post='2924478'] An album well worth getting hold of is the Fat Albert Rotunda LP. From 1969 it was originally written as the music to a Bill Cosby TV show. Funky, jazzy, cool and groovy it tends to get overlooked when HH's output gets discussed. Fat Mama is ace.. [/quote] Cheers, I'll put that one on my Christmas list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 Great. Only no-one here has referenced much Jazz These guys are all fusion, jazz funksters. Another 30 years and you will discover real Jazz!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bastav Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 (edited) Real jazz is in the ear of the behearer Edited December 8, 2015 by Bastav Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spiltmilk_2000 Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 I'm in a similar place with getting into jazz fairly recently. Always found it alluring and interesting but never really played any as it just seemed too inaccessible for someone of my limited brain capacity. However since taking the plunge my playing and my knowledge of the fretboard and harmony have increased exponentially and I'm having more fun than I thought I would! I would suggest all the classics as a starting point. Miles Davis, Charlie Parker, john coletrane, thelonius monk, cannonball adderly etc... Some amazingly lyrical bass playing but I'm really enjoying transcribing some sax and horn lines that really get you out of your comfort zone. The biggest problem I'm finding is getting to the standard where I can play with others competently and confidently. It's going to be a long road but a surprisingly enjoyable one! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickD Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 (edited) It's a broad church, and one I know bugger all about, coming from a rock perspective. Having got really into Snark Puppy (OK, it's probably not proper jazz... but it works for me), someone suggested Mingus's Ah Um, which I got, and I love. Also picked up the Mingus Big Band's Nostalgia on Times Square... the version of Moanin' on it just has me hitting repeat. Edited December 8, 2015 by NickD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeEvans Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 (edited) My favourite contemporary jazz musician is Tomasz Stanko - to my mind, 'Soul of Things' and 'Suspended Night' are pretty much perfect albums. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H51xGk0lMwk[/media] Although now I come to think about it, I can't talk about contemporary jazz without mentioning EST - 'Strange Place for Snow' is just an amazing album... [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkjWW8V49kI[/media] Edited December 8, 2015 by JoeEvans Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrevorR Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 If you want to explore "proper" jazz then you could do worse than downloading this album from iTunes... #1 Jazz Album Ever! by Various Artists https://itun.es/gb/XR-sA At £5.99 for 150 tracks, many of them absolute classics/standards by the pivotal artists in all forms of jazz across the last 80 years, it would be an easy way to dip into different jazz styles to see what you liked. And frankly, if you only liked one in ten tracks you could still hardly say fairer in terms of vfm! Herbie Hancock, Ella Fitzgerald, thelonius Monk, Wes Montgomery, Miles Davis, Charlie Parker, Stan Getz... They are all there... Plus many more. The perfect dip in dip out sampler. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Painy Posted December 9, 2015 Author Share Posted December 9, 2015 [quote name='TrevorR' timestamp='1449618526' post='2925356'] If you want to explore "proper" jazz then you could do worse than downloading this album from iTunes... #1 Jazz Album Ever! by Various Artists https://itun.es/gb/XR-sA At £5.99 for 150 tracks, many of them absolute classics/standards by the pivotal artists in all forms of jazz across the last 80 years, it would be an easy way to dip into different jazz styles to see what you liked. And frankly, if you only liked one in ten tracks you could still hardly say fairer in terms of vfm! Herbie Hancock, Ella Fitzgerald, thelonius Monk, Wes Montgomery, Miles Davis, Charlie Parker, Stan Getz... They are all there... Plus many more. The perfect dip in dip out sampler. [/quote] Ooooooooo! That looks spot on. Thanks for all the other suggestions too guys, gonna keep me busy on YouTube for a bit there too. Speaking of YouTube, any suggestions for 'starter' jazz tutorial videos on there that people could recommend? I'm afraid my standard of reading dots is very much on the slow and laboured side as my usual rock fair I'll just learn by ear so something visual would be great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Behlmene Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 [quote name='Painy' timestamp='1449527955' post='2924458'] Never thought it would happen, been into and played rock, metal and a bit of punk for the last 20 years (but always in fairness still enjoyed most styles of music I've come across to some degree) but jazz has always been a bit of an enigma to me. I've always appreciated the considerable skill demonstrated by those that play it (moondance exempted ) but it's always felt to me more like an interesting technical exercise than any kind of engaging or emotional experience. Just recently though I've been doing a bit of 'YouTube research' into a new amp which lead me to the Aguilar YouTube channel. There seems to be a certain prevalence amongst their demo videos for Fodera toting jazz virtuosos but I decided to have a listen anyway starting with guys I was at least fairly familiar with. Anyway, after watching a couple of videos by Felix Pastorius and Janek Gwizdala, I realised I'd listened to them not to hear how the Aguilar gear sounded as I'd intended, but just enjoying the music. Now I'm not about to hang up my proverbial leather trousers and buy myself a black turtle-neck and beret or anything but does anyone have any suggestions for listening material - ideally bass orientated but preferably not too slap happy? I'd also be interested in hearing any YouTube tuition videos that people can recommend for this style. [/quote] Good for you ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discreet Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 (edited) It just means you're getting old. Seriously though, always been a huge fan of Mingus, Coltrane, Davis, Coleman, Haden, Parker, etc. etc. What is generally known as 'Fusion'... not so much. Jazz is the teacher and funk is the preacher! http://youtu.be/j9QXpfvgSVk Edited December 9, 2015 by discreet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qlank Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 Love this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFKlezPu3xg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qlank Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 +1 for Miles Davis: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqNTltOGh5c Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrevorR Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 [quote name='Qlank' timestamp='1449643257' post='2925416'] +1 for Miles Davis: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqNTltOGh5c [/quote] Yup. Top tune! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonard Smalls Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 Jazz has always been about innovation as much as virtuosity, though for some jazz has to sound like it did 50 years ago otherwise it's "fusion". So here's some modern jazz: [size="2"]http://soundcloud.com/gary-willis/sets/slaughterhouse-3[/size] [size="2"][/size] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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