mcnach Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 [quote name='thebigyin' timestamp='1392136994' post='2365193'] Hello, We're individully all experienced musicians.....but our Guitarist can't seem to play a full gig without making several mistakes......be it bum chords or forgetting song arrangement ect, upto now we've turned a blind eye but after a year together it's beggining to get a bit much.....would you bring it up? He's fully aware he's made the errors and thinks nothing of it, saying he's sorry but eh never mind.....bare in mind he's a very good friend but has quite a volatile temper lol.....at times his playing his very good but we've never got thro' a gig without some sort of Howler. [/quote] more practice? anybody can make the odd mistake, but if happens frequently and he even forgets arrangements it suggests he does not put much time in learning the songs and in keeping up. He needs to practice, by himself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leschirons Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 [quote name='CHW' timestamp='1392205782' post='2365876'] If he is putting in the hours for practice but still making errors then he needs to work out some form of crib sheet, even if it's a few notes on the setlist. Something like: I, V, C, V, C, B, C, S, C. Could be enough [/quote] Ha, you can talk.. you forgot there's a double chorus at the end Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annoying Twit Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 How about electrical wires connected to his gonads from a footswitch, that you can press every time he makes a mistake? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discreet Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 [quote name='thebigyin' timestamp='1392204033' post='2365851'] He doesn't Drink and tends to make silly mistakes at rehearsals as well... I'm beginning to think it's Nerves? [/quote] What he needs is a few pints and a couple of chasers before gigs and rehearsals! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bagsieblue Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 [quote name='discreet' timestamp='1392156229' post='2365522'] Sounds like he needs to practice more. [/quote] This is right - practice - individually. IME and IMO band practice is for gluing it all together not, I repeat NOT, for learning individual parts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyfisher Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 [quote name='xgsjx' timestamp='1392220259' post='2366106'] As he's your friend, I think the best course of action would be to have a member of the audience shoot him in the nads with a taser every time he fluffs up. [/quote] Now you mention fluffing . . . . [quote name='Skybone' timestamp='1392214430' post='2366020'] Maybe have a quiet chat with him and ask if he does get nervous playing gigs. If he does, maybe try and do something pre-gig that'll help relax him a bit. Just a thought. [/quote] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12stringbassist Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 If there are parts of certain songs he is fluffing, offer to go and play through that part of the song until he has nailed it. With bands I have routined songs with, we have played chord sequences back to back until they are spot on with solos or arrangements as we want them, left it to play something else then have gone back to it and done it again. Drilling something in and playing it til it's right is the only way. Anyone is capable of fumbling a part occasionally, or being a little clumsy, but if it's happening so much that accuracy or consistency is an issue you need to decide when enough is enough. It's quite possible to help someone improve without making them feel bad about it, so go gently. Good luck with that one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FinnDave Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 If someone shows no desire or ability to improve, then either kick them out, leave, or learn to live with it until you finally decide to implement on of the first two options. The fact that it bothers you enough to post about it here shows that you are not able to live with it, so.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skywalker Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 Record the gig if you can and then play it back so can hear what he does wrong (and how bad it sounds). He might just get a shock and sort himself out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaytonaRik Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 [quote name='bagsieblue' timestamp='1392243155' post='2366492'] This is right - practice - individually. IME and IMO band practice is for gluing it all together not, I repeat NOT, for learning individual parts. [/quote] Right there! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzyvee Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 [quote name='dannybuoy' timestamp='1392138588' post='2365224'] Get him to play bass instead? Nobody will notice then. [/quote] Well I guess that would depend on genre. In reggae which is what I do most gigs in these days, fluffing up the bass line is pretty serious matter. Whenever I've done that, which thankfully isn't that often, i try to think what was going on just before the duff note and usually its due to my concentration drifting on to something outside of the stage or even the gig and then it's usually on the song with the simplest of bass lines. The more intricate tracks don't give your mind a chance to drift. Maybe your guitarist is not focussed on the music and is being distracted by this thoughts. Jazzyvee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
51m0n Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 Record the reheasals andthe gigs - there is really nor reason not to do this these days and its a piece of cake to send the files out to people too via wetransfer.com for instance. When everyone can hear the issue including the person responsible the expectation for them to improve will become far greater IME. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discreet Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 (edited) [quote name='flyfisher' timestamp='1392244256' post='2366506'] Now you mention fluffing... [/quote][size=4][quote name='12stringbassist' timestamp='1392247031' post='2366545'][/size]If there are parts of certain songs he is fluffing, offer to go and play through that part of the song until he has nailed it. [/quote] I thought the advent of Viagra had made fluffing redundant? Edited February 13, 2014 by discreet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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