Graham Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 I'm no Ritter expert, but this strikes me as a bargain: http://www.gumtree.com/p/for-sale/ritter-roya-jazz-bass-5-string/1042743870 Well, a bargain if you've got a spare grand hanging around Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karlfer Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 Me too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winterfire666 Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 if i had spare cash knockin about id snap this up pretty sharpish, looks lovely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winterfire666 Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 https://ritter-instruments.com/item_info.php?i=261 details on the ritter site for this bass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazed Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 Any way of telling if its genuine? Come across web talk of fake ritters when searching Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winterfire666 Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 dunno, the wood grain seems a perfect match to the one on the ritter site, if the pics are genuine that is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cairobill Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 Haven't been to Everton for a while but the landscape in the background of the photo doesn't look anything like everton. More like switzerland/austria If it is genuine, it's a great deal as these basses don't leave you much change from 5K or so. I smell a scam... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winterfire666 Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 well spotted, the background signage looks like usa to me, certainly not UK, highly suspicious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazed Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 The bass originally went to a chap in New York Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shizznit Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 I agree. The price alone raises alarm bells, but Liverpool/Merseyside has a pretty flat landscape. I know this might sound daft, but our grass in the UK is not that thick either. In other countries (like USA) grass is much wider and stiffer. This ad cannot be trusted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 It's definitely the same one like on the website as I've compared the photos. I've emailed the seller, will post when I get a reply. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 Also if it's a scam why would he suggest you'd check it on Ritters web site since once you do it you can clearly see it's been sold in the USA?... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HowieBass Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 (edited) ... and wiped with a diaper after use? Hmmmmmm. According to Ritter it went to Chuck Bernklau in New York... https://www.facebook.com/chuck.bernklau Edited December 22, 2013 by HowieBass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bagsieblue Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 Agreed, I know this area very well, can't think of anywhere that looks like this though. Also the word 'diaper' rings alarm bells. Scousers have a dialect of their own but diaper is not one of the words I'd have expected.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazed Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 Maybe part of the ad was copied from an American ad. I bet chuck had a lot of traffic today! Anyone on Facebook ( I'm not) tried asking if he sold it? Here's why I wondered if it was gen. This was apperently a copy including the serial number. Not a genereic copy but a specific replica of an individual bass. Interesting read http://www.talkbass.com/forum/f8/guitar-center-sells-counterfeit-copy-my-ritter-despite-them-being-informed-727086/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HowieBass Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 The Gumtree advert must be a scam. Look at this eBay auction... for the same instrument http://www.ebay.com/itm/Ritter-Roya-Jazz-Bass-5-string-/261279864767?nma=true&si=wDji4N%252Bj8Wxd%252FiD78H1ZT8Wwk7I%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyf Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 In my limited experience with another problem sale, Gumtree seem to be quite willing to investigate suspect sales if there's supporting evidence of shannagans. Maybe worth reporting it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HowieBass Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 I've reported the Gumtree advert as fraudulent using the eBay sale in September as evidence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shizznit Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 Nice one HowieBass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyf Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 [quote name='HowieBass' timestamp='1387729411' post='2314950'] I've reported the Gumtree advert as fraudulent using the eBay sale in September as evidence. [/quote] Good job buddy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ambient Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 The advert is word for word the same as the Ebay one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BetaFunk Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 http://www.ebay.com/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=261273380598&item=261273380598&lgeo=1&vectorid=229466 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
molan Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 I spoke to the owner of it in the States when it was on eBay, at the time he wouldn't ship to the UK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shizznit Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 Blimey lads...some great investigation work being carried out here! I'm sure you would be able to find Jimmy Hoffa if given the chance! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Posted December 22, 2013 Author Share Posted December 22, 2013 (edited) Nice work guys, I knew Ritters were expensive, but didn't realise quite how expensive they were, otherwise alarm bells would have sounded sooner..... :embarrassed: Edited December 22, 2013 by Graham Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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