Geddys nose Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 [url="http://deanzelinsky.com/pages/z-glide"]http://deanzelinsky.com/pages/z-glide[/url] Snake oil or good idea? I'd imagine it will be smoother until sweat & gunk fill the holes ( Kenneth Williams 'Oh') and a bugger to clean, But a different idea to the norm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
risingson Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 They're comparison to trying to slide your hand on glass is interesting. Most bass necks are wood and have a totally different surface depending on how heavily finished they are and what they're finished with. All the graphite necks I've tried have never hindered me either even though I'm not a fan. So yeh, I think it's snake oil and countless musicians that are not hindered by standard necks. That textured finish is also going to collect the worst kind of grime and dirt from hours of playing! Nasty all around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LITTLEWING Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 Try this out, it's stupid cheap and incredibly jaw-dropping. Finest wire wool, rub up and down the entire back of the neck including the fretboard edges. (Mask off the pups first, they'll only collect all the bits). Wipe off everything with a cloth and then give it a quick polish with decent guitar stuff. Run your hand up and down and be ready to catch yourself before you fall. Do this to a cheapy first if you don't believe it. You can thank me later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlungerModerno Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 [quote name='LITTLEWING' timestamp='1386089443' post='2295584'] Try this out, it's stupid cheap and incredibly jaw-dropping. Finest wire wool, rub up and down the entire back of the neck including the fretboard edges. (Mask off the pups first, they'll only collect all the bits). Wipe off everything with a cloth and then give it a quick polish with decent guitar stuff. Run your hand up and down and be ready to catch yourself before you fall. Do this to a cheapy first if you don't believe it. You can thank me later. [/quote] I'm with you on roughing up a high gloss neck - but I'd keep wire wool far away from my magnets and electronics - and away from my fingerboard. got a sliver of chrome in my finger a couple of days ago. can't imagine steel wool being any nicer. Use kitchen scrubber / scotchbrite pads. A couple of passes will take very little off the finish and leave harmless powdered finish and plastic from the scrubber. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Telebass Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 Never understood this problem with high gloss necks. Prefer them, in fact! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve-bbb Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 some people are easily parted from their money that is all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazza 2905 Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 [quote name='Telebass' timestamp='1386232090' post='2297387'] Never understood this problem with high gloss necks. Prefer them, in fact! [/quote] Couldn't agree more! I find my hand moves better across a glossy/polished neck, - lower coefficient of friction surely? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime_BASS Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 One expensive cheese grater. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldG Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 (edited) [quote name='Gazza 2905' timestamp='1386237216' post='2297457'] Couldn't agree more! I find my hand moves better across a glossy/polished neck, - lower coefficient of friction surely? [/quote] Yup.... I use T-cut/fine cutting compound on sticky necks - to finish the job that should have been done at the factory... Edited December 5, 2013 by OldG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roland Rock Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 [quote name='Gazza 2905' timestamp='1386237216' post='2297457'] Couldn't agree more! I find my hand moves better across a glossy/polished neck, - lower coefficient of friction surely? [/quote] This came up in a previous thread, and I found the following random web info: "On polished surfaces exist more contact points between the contact partners. Therefore the friction coefficient is slightly higher, the mechanical losses and the surface temperature are increased. • On smooth, polished, moving surfaces the so called „stick-slip“ effect can have much more dramatic consequences. This is a change of static friction and sliding friction. It is easy to imitate this phenomenon, by trying to slide a hand over a smooth glass surface. On moving surfaces this effect creates vibrations with high frequencies but low amplitudes." I have one glossy neck and one non-glossy. The glossy one is a tad stickier, but it makes zero difference when I'm playing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_b Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 I would suggest that you change your technique so that you don't slide your hand on the back of the neck. If the pad of your thumb is the only thing that touches the neck and you release the pressure when you change position you won't have the problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roland Rock Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 [quote name='chris_b' timestamp='1386243129' post='2297560'] I would suggest that you change your technique so that you don't slide your hand on the back of the neck. If the pad of your thumb is the only thing that touches the neck and you release the pressure when you change position you won't have the problem. [/quote] Absolutely - this is why my glossier neck feels stickier when rubbed, but makes no different when played. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norris Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 [quote][color=#333333][font=Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]The Z-Glide was also designed to trap moisture and sweat.[/font][/color][/quote] Nice... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlungerModerno Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 [quote name='chris_b' timestamp='1386243129' post='2297560'] I would suggest that you change your technique so that you don't slide your hand on the back of the neck. If the pad of your thumb is the only thing that touches the neck and you release the pressure when you change position you won't have the problem. [/quote] I've been working on lightening my left hand . . . all my necks have a semi-glossy or satin finish at this stage - but good technique is the biggie. A good trick I saw was gary willis: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yoHEqQzbGAc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlapbassSteve Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 My piano teacher at school used to use gaffa tape on his jazz guitar- fairplay it did seem to work but I'd never do it myself, the residue from that stuff's impossible to get off! However even then it has to be easier then fixing whatever the hell that company do to the back of the neck... and a damn site cheaper too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icastle Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 I always start off with those satin finish necks but they're glossy within a couple of months. It doesn't seem to make a noticeable difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve-bbb Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 (edited) [quote name='SlapbassSteve' timestamp='1386283728' post='2298412'] the residue from that stuff's impossible to get off! [/quote] isopropyl alcohol or lighter fluid also a rag soaked in IPA and rub down strings will really clean them up and give them a fresh lease of life Edited December 7, 2013 by steve-bbb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Count Bassy Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 [quote name='steve-bbb' timestamp='1386426163' post='2299975'] isopropyl alcohol or lighter fluid also a rag soaked in IPA and rub down strings will really clean them up and give them a fresh lease of life [/quote] And the orange oil based solvents (e.g. label remover) are great for gaffa tape residue as well (and Blue Tac residue). However, as they always say, "test on an inconspicuous area first". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmchich Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 Removing residue using India Pale Ale? Sounds unlikely Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve-bbb Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 [quote name='jmchich' timestamp='1386543207' post='2301377'] Removing residue using India Pale Ale? Sounds unlikely [/quote] but true Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Apple Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 I need a bit of friction, otherwise I'm all over the neck. When I first polish I find it too slippy for my tastes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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