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South East Bass Bash No.7, Surrey, Saturday 21st September 2013

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[quote name='Billy Apple' timestamp='1377182519' post='2184456']
GAS? Is fracking allowed in Surrey?
[/quote]SHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! They'll all be up from Balcombe, picketting the school because of the earthquakes being caused by 50(ish) bass players getting down in the hall & jam room :lol:

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[quote name='Happy Jack' timestamp='1377266189' post='2185578']
It's what all the really cool dudes call a bass these days ...
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:D

BigBeatNut - here you are, full thread with all 771 replies - and counting :lol:
[url="http://basschat.co.uk/topic/196941-the-bass-relay-thread/"]http://basschat.co.uk/topic/196941-the-bass-relay-thread/[/url]

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[quote name='51m0n' timestamp='1377263565' post='2185529']
Looking more likely that I will be able to get there - woot!
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Excellent! I hope all those who are doubtful will manage to attend. It's going to be awesome with so many people and so much gear!

Question to organisers and helpers: How are things proceeding with workshop/masterclasses and guests?

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[quote name='bluejay' timestamp='1377267209' post='2185606']
BigBeatNut - here you are, full thread with all 771 replies - and counting :lol:
[url="http://basschat.co.uk/topic/196941-the-bass-relay-thread/"]http://basschat.co.u...s-relay-thread/[/url]
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That was a bit hard to figure out from the thread .... I did eventually discover the [url="http://www.justgiving.com/BCrelay"]Justgiving[/url] page which had an explanation, though.

Thanks.

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Apologies if it wasn't clear - I thought you might already have an inkling that some sort of bass guitar relay had been happening on Basschat (many of us do go on about it a bit, after all! :D ). The FB page is [url="http://www.facebook.com/BcBassRelay"]http://www.facebook.com/BcBassRelay[/url].

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[quote name='MacDaddy' timestamp='1377269732' post='2185665']
will there be a set-up masterclass?
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We are waiting on several confirmations before announcing what's on the agenda this year - but I am excited! :biggrin:[size=4] [/size]

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[quote name='bluejay' timestamp='1377283794' post='2185896']
Apologies if it wasn't clear - I thought you might already have an inkling that some sort of bass guitar relay had been happening on Basschat (many of us do go on about it a bit, after all! :D ). The FB page is [url="http://www.facebook.com/BcBassRelay"]http://www.facebook.com/BcBassRelay[/url].
[/quote]

No probs, and sorry if I came over a bit grumpy. I did have an inkling, but no idea of the details of how it worked. It was evident from the thread it was widely talked about ... I just couldn't find out how it worked.

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[quote name='BigBeatNut' timestamp='1377354719' post='2186644']
No probs, and sorry if I came over a bit grumpy. I did have an inkling, but no idea of the details of how it worked. It was evident from the thread it was widely talked about ... I just couldn't find out how it worked.
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If I manage to persuade James to attend with the Baton, and to spend most of my time taking photos and videos of absolutely everything and everybody, obviously including the Relay, then by the end of the bash you'll probably be able to write a book about it! :lol: :P :rolleyes:

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This is looking like the most well attended SE Bash ever, so let's hope the traffic gods are kind to us on the day..It'll be great to see so many fellow Basschatters there on the day

Two things quickly before heading out to the Arundel festival;

Bluejay's been doing a fab job of updating the list, so thanks very much for that! :)

Oh -and also some info about Raffle Prizes too.

Nik

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I'd love to attend, but just want to check that there will definitely be enough space if everyone brings the equipment they've listed! If space isn't an issue, then I can bring an Ampeg SVT CL with 1x15 and 4x10 cabs for amplification. On the bass front it would be a Stingray Stealth in drop Bb that people are welcome to play. Effects wise, I could bring my board which has Compulator, Darkglass B3K, EH Clone Theory and EH Electric Mistress.

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Chris, I was at last years' bash - held in the same school - and the place is [b]huge[/b]! There will be no space problems, I'm sure.

I've added you to the list :)

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[color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]1. Hamster - Tea, coffee & biscuits[/font][/color]
[color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]2. Silverfoxnik - BC Rich Eagle, Schecter Diamond P5, Levinson Blade B15, amp & cab tbc[/font][/color]
[color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]3. Happy Jack - Matamp GT120 with Barefaced stack[/font][/color]
[color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]4. Bluejay - something left-handed[/font][/color][color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif], most likely Godman acoustic, and Fortress 5 if space allows[/font][/color]
[color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]5. OBBM - Bergantino CN212, Aguilar TH500, A couple of old Fenders, perhaps a Sadowsky UV70.[/font][/color]
[color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]6. chris_b[/font][/color]
[color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]7. Clarky[/font][/color]
[color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]8. Russ - Sei 5-string, Spector 5-string, Markbass 6x10"/Ampeg SVT-7[/font][/color]
[color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]9. Irvined - Retrovide RV4 and home brew bass pedals[/font][/color]
[color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]10. xilddx - 1983 USA Fender Jazz / 2010 USA Fender Stratocaster Deluxe V-Neck / POD X3 LIVE[/font][/color]
[color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]11. Sibob[/font][/color]
[color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]12. Tayste_2000 - Rickenbacker 4003, Overwater 5 string, [1970s Ampeg B-15, Custom Matamp GT200 MK2, Matamp 8x10], the pedalboard[/font][/color]
[color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]13. Barneyg42-Status S2 Classic five, Ibanez BTB 6-string fretess,TC BH500, TC BC 2x10, Barefaced Compact and various pedalage![/font][/color]
[color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]14. Walman - T[/font][/color][color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]C BH250, & will probably bring the Wal, synth & bass pedals, plus the L2500s (definitely the fretted one)[/font][/color] and Streamliner 6 & Barefaced Super12T
[color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]15. Paul S - some stuff. BF rig, maybe a Westone Pantera X790 in case anyone wants a look?[/font][/color]
[color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]16. BetaFunk - I will bring a selection of British 60s basses (Vox, Burns, WEM) plus my Shergold Marathon.[/font][/color]
[color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]17. Billy Apple. Matamp GT200 Rig. Ruttmoth P Bass, TBird too maybe. Some Pedals.[/font][/color]
[color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]18. Jazzneck (gig and her highness permitting) - Ampeg AEB and my £60 OLP MM alike.[/font][/color]
[color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]19. Simonedward (with blessing of authorities) - Jaydees (Series II, GA24 custom and fretless), a Trace amp (probably), lots of TC toneprint pedals.[/font][/color]
[color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]20. Walbassist - Veillette Archtop fretless 5, Sandberg VT5 and BSX Allegro 5[/font][/color]
[color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]21. Phil Adams[/font][/color] - my ESP 5 string fretless, and probably my Stagg fretless
[color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]22. Fat Rich - Fenders, Status[/font][/color]
[color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]23. Molan - Ritters, Celinders, Alleva Coppolo etc.[/font][/color]
[color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]24. 51m0n[/font][/color]
[color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]25. Dropzone[/font][/color]
[color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]26. Ant - Aria, Fender, BG250, compulator[/font][/color]
[color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]27. ped - Vigier passion 4, Buscanti Jazz, Vbass[/font][/color]
[color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]28. Urban Bassman - Shuker JB5 Custom, US Masters EP53 Fretless, Ashdown Kylstron 500 and 4x10[/font][/color]
[color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]29. PTB - MTD 535, Reverend 5L,[/font][/color]
[color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]30. StephenYork - Alpher Custom 5 String, Markbass LM3, Markbass 2x15 (and maybe the missus)[/font][/color]
[color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]31. hen barn - Status kingbass, status energy 5 string(ebs loaded); Genz Benz streamliner; Vanderklays 2x10 1x12; Lots of pedals! [/font][/color]
[color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]32. bigbeatnut - lots of teeny pedals and a themed selection of basses Probably Status Eclipse LTD 5, Status shark 5, Status S1 5 (last two fretless) [/font][/color]
[color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]33. Shockwave - Warmoth P-J Antigua bass, 6 String Letts bass (If built)[/font][/color][color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif] otherwise my Gibson Grabber tuned Drop C.[/font][/color]
[color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]34. Kiwi - Self build, Shuker 6, custom strat[/font][/color]
[color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]35. Bassmanady[/font][/color]
[color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]36. pete.young[/font][/color]
[color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]37. pobrien_ie - a P Bass of some kind....boring I know[/font][/color]
[color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]38. Marcus Bell - Jaydee supernatural roadie 2 active; Status series 2000 [/font][/color]
[color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]39. dave.c - [/font][/color][color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]1985 Vigier Passion II and a 2008 Passion IV possibly a Vigier Excess[/font][/color]
[color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]40.[/font][/color][color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif] The Greek[/font][/color]
[color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]41.[/font][/color][color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif] Bassface2k10[/font][/color]
[color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]42.[/font][/color][color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif] Lozz196[/font][/color]
[color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]43. Truckstop[/font][/color]
[color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]44. urb[/font][/color]
[color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]45. SpaceChick [tbc][/font][/color]
[color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]46. Throwoff - new bass and/or Genz Benz 410[/font][/color]
[color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]47. TomKent [tbc] - Jazz Bass, P Bass, half my Krampera stack[/font][/color]
[color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]48. Wolverinebass - either the Alembic or the Buzzard[/font][/color]
[color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]49. iD Entity - Zon Sonus 5, and maybe my Ampeg Micro VRs, and some pedals[/font][/color]
[color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]50. JapanAxe - I will just bring basses - G&L L1505 an Yamaha BB400S fretless - plus Orange Valve Tester[/font][/color]
[color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]51. Grand Wazoo - One Dingwall ABII Roasted Maple Neck and one Vintage PRS Bass with a small amp (Ibanez promethean) to allow them to be played and heard.[/font][/color]
[color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]52. Bikenbass - Fender Roscoe Beck V, GK MB200, Barefaced Compact. [/font][/color]
[color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]53. NancyJohnson [/font][/color]- two or three thunderbirds and my Ashdown/Hartke stuff. I'll bring my Waterstone Tom Petersson12-string bass too unless Warwickhunt has bought it by then. I'll be with drummer Darren Oliver-Jones
54. Dougal - Xotic Precision, ACG Super J, Rickenbacker 4004
55. MacDaddy - Paul the drummer and kit.
56. Oopsdabassist [tbc]
57. Discreet [tbc] - with or without The Bass Doc 'Discreet' Custom P?
58. Chriswareham - Ampeg SVT CL with 1x15 and 4x10 cabs; Stingray Stealth in drop Bb; pedalboard with Compulator, Darkglass B3K, EH Clone Theory and EH Electric Mistress
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[quote name='bluejay' timestamp='1377551300' post='2188827']
Chris, I was at last years' bash - held in the same school - and the place is [b]huge[/b]! There will be no space problems, I'm sure.

I've added you to the list :)
[/quote]Brilliant! I hope to get a go on the Shergold that one of the other attendees is bringing. Never seen one "in the flesh" before, let alone had the chance to play one.

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*ahem* Having just posted this in the North East Bash thread I'll have another attempt at getting it in the correct place.... shouldn't have opened that bottle of wine...

[color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Just met bluejay for a trade who has got me interested in coming along to this... Wonderful lady, if half of those attending are as passionate about bass as she is it'll be a wonderful day....[/font][/color]

[color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Not sure I can really bring anything along to compete with the spoils currently on offer though... Maybe I'll bring a looper for a demo.[/font][/color]

[color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Rob [/font][/color]

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It was lovely to meet you too, Rob, and many thanks for the stand, now proudly holding three of my basses to start with (but not the upright, LOL, that one's got its own functional but horrid-looking tripod). :D
Please come along to the bash, it's going to be absolutely awesome!

Updated list

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[color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]1. Hamster - Tea, coffee & biscuits[/font][/color]
[color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]2. Silverfoxnik - BC Rich Eagle, Schecter Diamond P5, Levinson Blade B15, amp & cab tbc[/font][/color]
[color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]3. Happy Jack - Matamp GT120 with Barefaced stack[/font][/color]
[color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]4. Bluejay - something left-handed[/font][/color][color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif], most likely Godman acoustic, and Fortress 5 if space allows[/font][/color]
[color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]5. OBBM - Bergantino CN212, Aguilar TH500, A couple of old Fenders, perhaps a Sadowsky UV70.[/font][/color]
[color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]6. chris_b[/font][/color]
[color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]7. Clarky[/font][/color]
[color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]8. Russ - Sei 5-string, Spector 5-string, Markbass 6x10"/Ampeg SVT-7[/font][/color]
[color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]9. Irvined - Retrovide RV4 and home brew bass pedals[/font][/color]
[color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]10. xilddx - 1983 USA Fender Jazz / 2010 USA Fender Stratocaster Deluxe V-Neck / POD X3 LIVE[/font][/color]
[color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]11. Sibob[/font][/color]
[color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]12. Tayste_2000 - Rickenbacker 4003, Overwater 5 string, [1970s Ampeg B-15, Custom Matamp GT200 MK2, Matamp 8x10], the pedalboard[/font][/color]
[color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]13. Barneyg42-Status S2 Classic five, Ibanez BTB 6-string fretess,TC BH500, TC BC 2x10, Barefaced Compact and various pedalage![/font][/color]
[color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]14. Walman - T[/font][/color][color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]C BH250, & will probably bring the Wal, synth & bass pedals, plus the L2500s (definitely the fretted one)[/font][/color] and Streamliner 6 & Barefaced Super12T
[color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]15. Paul S - some stuff. BF rig, maybe a Westone Pantera X790 in case anyone wants a look?[/font][/color]
[color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]16. BetaFunk - I will bring a selection of British 60s basses (Vox, Burns, WEM) plus my Shergold Marathon.[/font][/color]
[color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]17. Billy Apple. Matamp GT200 Rig. Ruttmoth P Bass, TBird too maybe. Some Pedals.[/font][/color]
[color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]18. Jazzneck (gig and her highness permitting) - Ampeg AEB and my £60 OLP MM alike.[/font][/color]
[color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]19. Simonedward (with blessing of authorities) - Jaydees (Series II, GA24 custom and fretless), a Trace amp (probably), lots of TC toneprint pedals.[/font][/color]
[color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]20. Walbassist - Veillette Archtop fretless 5, Sandberg VT5 and BSX Allegro 5[/font][/color]
[color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]21. Phil Adams[/font][/color] - my ESP 5 string fretless, and probably my Stagg fretless
[color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]22. Fat Rich - Fenders, Status[/font][/color]
[color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]23. Molan - Ritters, Celinders, Alleva Coppolo etc.[/font][/color]
[color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]24. 51m0n[/font][/color]
[color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]25. Dropzone[/font][/color]
[color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]26. Ant - Aria, Fender, BG250, compulator[/font][/color]
[color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]27. ped - Vigier passion 4, Buscanti Jazz, Vbass[/font][/color]
[color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]28. Urban Bassman - Shuker JB5 Custom, US Masters EP53 Fretless, Ashdown Kylstron 500 and 4x10[/font][/color]
[color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]29. PTB - MTD 535, Reverend 5L,[/font][/color]
[color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]30. StephenYork - Alpher Custom 5 String, Markbass LM3, Markbass 2x15 (and maybe the missus)[/font][/color]
[color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]31. hen barn - Status kingbass, status energy 5 string(ebs loaded); Genz Benz streamliner; Vanderklays 2x10 1x12; Lots of pedals! [/font][/color]
[color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]32. bigbeatnut - lots of teeny pedals and a themed selection of basses Probably Status Eclipse LTD 5, Status shark 5, Status S1 5 (last two fretless) [/font][/color]
[color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]33. Shockwave - Warmoth P-J Antigua bass, 6 String Letts bass (If built)[/font][/color][color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif] otherwise my Gibson Grabber tuned Drop C.[/font][/color]
[color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]34. Kiwi - Self build, Shuker 6, custom strat[/font][/color]
[color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]35. Bassmanady[/font][/color]
[color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]36. pete.young[/font][/color]
[color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]37. pobrien_ie - a P Bass of some kind....boring I know[/font][/color]
[color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]38. Marcus Bell - Jaydee supernatural roadie 2 active; Status series 2000 [/font][/color]
[color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]39. dave.c - [/font][/color][color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]1985 Vigier Passion II and a 2008 Passion IV possibly a Vigier Excess[/font][/color]
[color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]40.[/font][/color][color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif] The Greek[/font][/color]
[color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]41.[/font][/color][color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif] Bassface2k10[/font][/color]
[color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]42.[/font][/color][color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif] Lozz196[/font][/color]
[color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]43. Truckstop[/font][/color]
[color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]44. urb[/font][/color]
[color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]45. SpaceChick [tbc][/font][/color]
[color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]46. Throwoff - new bass and/or Genz Benz 410[/font][/color]
[color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]47. TomKent [tbc] - Jazz Bass, P Bass, half my Krampera stack[/font][/color]
[color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]48. Wolverinebass - either the Alembic or the Buzzard[/font][/color]
[color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]49. iD Entity - Zon Sonus 5, and maybe my Ampeg Micro VRs, and some pedals[/font][/color]
[color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]50. JapanAxe - I will just bring basses - G&L L1505 an Yamaha BB400S fretless - plus Orange Valve Tester[/font][/color]
[color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]51. Grand Wazoo - One Dingwall ABII Roasted Maple Neck and one Vintage PRS Bass with a small amp (Ibanez promethean) to allow them to be played and heard.[/font][/color]
[color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]52. Bikenbass - Fender Roscoe Beck V, GK MB200, Barefaced Compact. [/font][/color]
[color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]53. NancyJohnson [/font][/color]- two or three thunderbirds and my Ashdown/Hartke stuff. I'll bring my Waterstone Tom Petersson12-string bass too unless Warwickhunt has bought it by then. I'll be with drummer Darren Oliver-Jones
54. Dougal - Xotic Precision, ACG Super J, Rickenbacker 4004
55. MacDaddy - Paul the drummer and kit.
56. Oopsdabassist [tbc]
57. Discreet [tbc] - with or without The Bass Doc 'Discreet' Custom P?
58. Chriswareham - Ampeg SVT CL with 1x15 and 4x10 cabs; Stingray Stealth in drop Bb; pedalboard with Compulator, Darkglass B3K, EH Clone Theory and EH Electric Mistress
59. CamdenRob - probably [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]a looper for a demo[/font][/color]
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