Alex Nikitin Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 [b][color=#000080]Playing bass with a pick or fingers[/color][/b] [color=#000080]which gives more groove? which shows you are more talented? which is more respected?[/color] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve-bbb Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 sheeesh how on earth do you think anyone can slap with a pick??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lettsguitars Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 The fingers are far more versatile. That's all there is to it. There may be pick players who deny it, but it is true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul torch Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 It's been discussed loads. It's up to the individual, makes no difference to groove, talent or respect. Tone is the only thing affected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surfinbernard Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 (edited) Fingers for all of those. There is a certain sound and attitude to be had from playing with a pick and some of my favourite bands had pick-using bassists so no disrespect to pickers but there it is. All except the 'more talented' part, you can't gauge someone's talent by their string plucking choices. Edited July 18, 2012 by surfinbernard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discreet Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 (edited) As PT says, it's down to how [i]you [/i]play and what [i]you [/i]prefer. Done! Edited July 18, 2012 by discreet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixdegrees Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 What ever suits the song. I use fingers as much as possible but if the song needs a pick, I grab a pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveK Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 Hi Alex, see you're new here, so I guess the question is serious You can "Groove" with [b]both [/b]pick and fingers. Using [b]both[/b] shows you are more talented. I have respect for a player who uses [b]both[/b]...well! I would guess that these days many more players use fingers rather than pick, but one is no better than the other. FWIW I'm predominantly a 'fingers player' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobodhi Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 Personally I find banging into the mike/music/ride stand makes me look a lot more talented and cool than my playing ever will... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Low End Bee Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 It's all about the shoes. I'm using a triangular composite pick with a cast at each corner made from: Dee Dee Ramones fingernail. Mark Kings Thumb and James Jamersons index finger. It's difficult to hold so I put a big groove in it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiamPodmore Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 Be profficient and confident with both, and use what the song calls for. Some songs sound better with fingers, some with a pick. I'm mostly a pick player with the band, but mostly fingerstyle at home. Being good at both allows me to choose what the song needs, and also means if i drop my pick i'm not stuck in the sh*t trying to find another, i can just carry on. Liam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottomE Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 Learn it all then you can decide. Everything has its place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave_bass5 Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 [quote name='LiamPodmore' timestamp='1342609241' post='1737726'] I'm mostly a pick player with the band, but mostly fingerstyle at home. Being good at both allows me to choose what the song needs, and also means if i drop my pick i'm not stuck in the sh*t trying to find another, i can just carry on. Liam [/quote] Same here. I find i get a better grove at home with fingers , but cant get enough speed up at gigs so tend to use the pick 99% of the time. Its something i really should work on. I tend to need my fingers to hold my pick so i guess its both ;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simon1964 Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 [quote name='lettsguitars' timestamp='1342607888' post='1737690'] The fingers are far more versatile. That's all there is to it. There may be pick players who deny it, but it is true. [/quote] Using both is most versatile. Try playing the intro run on No More Heroes with your fingers. You might be able to do it, but it just doesn't sound as good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiamPodmore Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 [quote name='dave_bass5' timestamp='1342609513' post='1737740'] Same here. I find i get a better grove at home with fingers , but cant get enough speed up at gigs so tend to use the pick 99% of the time. Its something i really should work on. [b]I tend to need my fingers to hold my pick so i guess its both ;-)[/b] [/quote] That's very true, in that case you could say that your thumb is used too. I can play my bands stuff fingerstyle, it just sounds better with a pick and it means i don't get my sweaty hands all over my strings as much. Liam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mushers Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 im all fingers and thumbs just cant seem to get it together with a pick i wish i could there are some songs that i struggle at keeping up with and of course sometimes the sound you get with a pick works great with some songs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave_bass5 Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 [quote name='LiamPodmore' timestamp='1342609702' post='1737746'] That's very true, in that case you could say that your thumb is used too. I can play my bands stuff fingerstyle, it just sounds better with a pick and it means i don't get my sweaty hands all over my strings as much. Liam [/quote] I really wish i didn't have to use a pick. It sounds stupid but i dont really like it a lot of the time.At home everything sounds fine with fingers but at gigs it all goes to pot. I think part of it is my band need me driving the songs along, and the pick sound works better, plus my speed is better with a pick, and it helps me keep the drummer in check. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Nikitin Posted July 18, 2012 Author Share Posted July 18, 2012 [color=#000080][b]StveK, [/b]thanks for warm welcome. [/color] [color=#000080]Heard a lot about this chat. Eventually joined.[/color] [color=#000080]Also hello to all [b]comrads[/b] and [b]fellaz[/b] here \\m// \\m//[/color] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gust0o Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 [quote name='Alex Nikitin' timestamp='1342607743' post='1737683'] [b][color=#000080]Playing bass with a pick or fingers[/color][/b] [color=#000080]which gives more groove? which shows you are more talented? which is more respected?[/color] [/quote] [b]Don't[/b] go on Youtube with this one. I've seen less ball bags in the shower after a match, than on that load of sh*te. In short, you can groove with both techniques. Having the ability to use both shows you have more capability in your playing than someone limited to one technique. Both are equally well respected. Tone is the real changing factor - and it's an individual call as to what you prefer, and what the song calls for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrismuzz Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 (edited) Sadly, pick players still get ragged on sometimes because it's seen as 'easier'... However if you heard me play with one you will probably think otherwise You can groove with either, and how talented (or well practiced) a player can be isn't affected by whether they use their fingers or a pick. However I think playing with your fingers does give you moren flexibility, as different types of stroke can give you a totally different sound.. From a light soft touch, to a sharp aggressive strike. If you want to be totally versatile learn both ways... But the golden rule would be to just do whatever YOU want. Whether it be because its easier, you prefer the sound, or just because you think it looks cooler! EDIT: Oh!... And right hand muting is SO MUCH EASIER if you play with a pick! Edited July 18, 2012 by chrismuzz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Nikitin Posted July 18, 2012 Author Share Posted July 18, 2012 [color=#000080]For all my music life I’ve seen so many bassists playing slow beat music with a pick, and I questioned myself plenty of time, why do they do that?[/color] [color=#000080]I can understand when some music genres (e.g. death metal) mostly require a bassist to play 16[sup]th[/sup] and 32[sup]nd[/sup] notes which might be a bit too fast for fingers.[/color] [color=#000080]As for soundung itself, a decent effect pedal board or processor can turn a bass sound into any tone wanted.[/color] [color=#000080]So IMO finger play is more respected, apart from few exclusions.[/color] [color=#000080]No offence to pick-style bassists[/color] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charic Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 I play with a pick nearly all of the time... Interestingly I find I can get a wider range of sounds from what I'm doing with a pick to fingers. I can play with fingers to a degree but I just don't enjoy it as much most of the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Low End Bee Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 Anybody who says 'no offence' actually means to give offence. I would be deeply offended if I actually gave a damn about what saddo finger jockeys thought Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrismuzz Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 [quote name='Alex Nikitin' timestamp='1342611271' post='1737795'] [color=#000080]For all my music life I’ve seen so many bassists playing slow beat music with a pick, and I questioned myself plenty of time, why do they do that?[/color] [color=#000080]I can understand when some music genres (e.g. death metal) mostly require a bassist to play 16[sup]th[/sup] and 32[sup]nd[/sup] notes which might be a bit too fast for fingers.[/color] [color=#000080]As for soundung itself, a decent effect pedal board or processor can turn a bass sound into any tone wanted.[/color] [color=#000080]So IMO finger play is more respected, apart from few exclusions.[/color] [color=#000080]No offence to pick-style bassists[/color] [/quote] You prefer fingerstyle, go for it! So do I [quote name='charic' timestamp='1342611415' post='1737798'] I can play with fingers to a degree but I just don't enjoy it as much most of the time. [/quote] This is an extremely valid reason, even if it's a player's only reason. If it's fun, DO IT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Nikitin Posted July 18, 2012 Author Share Posted July 18, 2012 [color=#000080][b]Low End Bee[/b][/color] [color=#000080]I am pretty sure you relate those few exclusions [/color] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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