Evil Undead Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 I've been eyeing up Fender Precisions lately, but I just can't afford one I'd even settle for the new Matt Freeman Squier, but that is almost as expensive as the Fenders on Gear4Music.... Just moaning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xilddx Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 You don't want a Fender. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil Undead Posted May 20, 2011 Author Share Posted May 20, 2011 [quote name='silddx' post='1238800' date='May 20 2011, 10:44 PM']You don't want a Fender.[/quote] Oh but I do P.S. why not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lozz196 Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 (edited) [quote name='Evil Undead' post='1238804' date='May 20 2011, 10:46 PM']Oh but I do P.S. why not?[/quote] Yes, you really do want a Fender Precision Tho take your time and make sure you get a good-un. And by that, I don`t mean a vintage or super expensive one, just that amongst the same range, there can be both treasures, and howlers. Edited May 20, 2011 by Lozz196 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munkonthehill Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 Fenders are good. P-basses are lovely. Those 51R basses give me a stirring in my panties Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibob Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 Bide your time, it'll happen! Even to you Nige Si Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gust0o Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 They're quite cool... For a while. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
risingson Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 The Mecca of bass guitar. I don't care how many people don't like them! I will forever gravitate towards Fender Jazz basses, second only to P's. They've got everything I need to make music, countless generations of pro bass players used them on the best records. They're brilliant! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAlonBass Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 [quote name='Evil Undead' post='1238804' date='May 20 2011, 10:46 PM']Oh but I do P.S. why not?[/quote] Because 'fashion' dictates that, at this moment in time, there are more Fender-haters around than normal. What you really 'need' is a boutique Bass, that costs more than my mortgage, looks like a broken Curly-Wurly chocolate bar, and sounds middy, honky and toneless, like most other boutique Basses out there. That gives you an excuse for never-ending G.A.S., in the quest for ANY kind of amplification that will make it sound decent. OR.....you could try a Fender, and see if you actually like them. I did, I do, and I've used them almost exclusively for 53 years, apart from the odd excursion into silliness, from which I subsequently recovered. (and don't get me started on the 4, 5, 6 string argument) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayPH Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 I have just got my first Fender Bass as a treat from my redundancy money and I absolutely love it. If you can't get one now, save up until you can. You won't be disapointed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bassman Sam Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 [quote name='BigAlonBass' post='1238859' date='May 21 2011, 12:05 AM']Because 'fashion' dictates that, at this moment in time, there are more Fender-haters around than normal. What you really 'need' is a boutique Bass, that costs more than my mortgage, looks like a broken Curly-Wurly chocolate bar, and sounds middy, honky and toneless, like most other boutique Basses out there. That gives you an excuse for never-ending G.A.S., in the quest for ANY kind of amplification that will make it sound decent. OR.....you could try a Fender, and see if you actually like them. I did, I do, and I've used them almost exclusively for 53 years, apart from the odd excursion into silliness, from which I subsequently recovered. (and don't get me started on the 4, 5, 6 string argument) [/quote] This. I could not agree more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tauzero Posted May 21, 2011 Share Posted May 21, 2011 [quote name='JayPH' post='1238863' date='May 21 2011, 12:10 AM']I have just got my first Fender Bass as a treat from my redundancy money and I absolutely love it. If you can't get one now, save up until you can. You won't be disapointed[/quote] If I got one now, I would be dreadfully disappointed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thisnameistaken Posted May 21, 2011 Share Posted May 21, 2011 (edited) FWIW I've got a Fender and a Warwick, and the Fender is a nice, characterless bass that suits most stuff and the Warwick is a beautifully idiosyncratic instrument that only sounds like itself and every note is a joy to behold. Especially as you work your way from the lower register into the next octave and the sound gurgles into something genuinely interesting. I'm not knocking Fenders, but they sound... Y'know. I will always prefer the Warwick, and I've found that engineers in recording studios always ask me to track the Warwick. I think its focus makes it easier for them to mix, and especially if you're playing something interesting in the bass part it makes it easier for them to make a feature of it without having to push the bass right to the front of the mix where it would get conspicuous. Same goes for live - I get heard without having to be loud. Edited May 21, 2011 by thisnameistaken Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil Undead Posted May 21, 2011 Author Share Posted May 21, 2011 Yeah, I love my Warwick as well This all came about because a while ago I saw the Matt Freeman squir and had a bad case of GAS. So I set about building my own look-a-like from parts... But the quality doesn't come close. I'm wondering whether I should have just bought what I originally wanted in the first place...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thisnameistaken Posted May 21, 2011 Share Posted May 21, 2011 Fender quality is a real minefield though. The worst bass I ever bought was a USA Fender. Well, it wasn't bought so much as stolen, but it was new when I got it, and in 12 months of touring it was a total disaster area. I've never had a duff Warwick and I'm on my fourth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil Undead Posted May 21, 2011 Author Share Posted May 21, 2011 Wow really? That's crazy! In what way was it a disaster area? I want to know what I should look out for Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul_5 Posted May 21, 2011 Share Posted May 21, 2011 I'd swing the other way on this TNIT, i've never played a warwick that I 'clicked' with. Jazz basses on the other hand just work for me. Ultimately it boils down to that, play as many as you can and let your hands tell you which one is for you [/subjective hippy crap] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime_BASS Posted May 21, 2011 Share Posted May 21, 2011 Get a stingray. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waynepunkdude Posted May 21, 2011 Share Posted May 21, 2011 I have a EBMM, a Fender and a Warwick no need to choose my friends Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LemonCello Posted May 21, 2011 Share Posted May 21, 2011 I've had a Warwick and several Fenders and it does depend on the type of music you play. The Warwick I had - Corvette $$ had a huge tonal palette and was good for Heavy Metal right through to Funk. With a Fender (and like Lozz I'm a Precision fan) you know exactly what sound your gonna get and they are utterly reliable. My USA P with flats is great for the bluesy stuff I play so no need for the clever Warwick. I just couldn't get on with the cricket bat neck and lack of fret markers in the end. I also don't really like small bodied basses. It really is down to personal taste. I have a Korean made Squier 50th Anniversary P which is in mint condition Black and Rosewood and it plays like a dream. I might be persuaded to part with it if you are interested? LC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibob Posted May 21, 2011 Share Posted May 21, 2011 Again, just adding to the debate, not arguing ....but I owned a Warwick and a USA Fender Jazz at the same time and the Fender blew the Warwick $$ out the water, on every aspect. The Warwick just got used less and less when I bought the Jazz, and I eventually sold it. That Jazz (my 2003 one) has probably done close to 400 gigs I reckon and its still perfectly fine, some paintwork coming away through sheer use, but thats it! I think the actually argument for me isn't brand related, it's active vs passive....I"m very much a passive fan, all the middy honky boutique basses (as mentioned above) are generally active, whereas I've always found passive basses to be a lot more organic and dynamic. For what it's worth, Fender's pre-amps are just as sucky lol Si Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guyl Posted May 21, 2011 Share Posted May 21, 2011 If you can stump up the initial cash, as long as you don't pay over the odds you can likely sell a Fender on Basschat without loosing too much if it doesn't work out for you. Can't always say the same for other bass brands Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil Undead Posted May 21, 2011 Author Share Posted May 21, 2011 [quote name='Prime_BASS' post='1238990' date='May 21 2011, 09:08 AM']Get a stingray.[/quote] Don't want one [quote name='waynepunkdude' post='1238992' date='May 21 2011, 09:12 AM']I have a EBMM, a Fender and a Warwick no need to choose my friends [/quote] [quote name='LemonCello' post='1239014' date='May 21 2011, 09:32 AM']I've had a Warwick and several Fenders and it does depend on the type of music you play. The Warwick I had - Corvette $$ had a huge tonal palette and was good for Heavy Metal right through to Funk. With a Fender (and like Lozz I'm a Precision fan) you know exactly what sound your gonna get and they are utterly reliable. My USA P with flats is great for the bluesy stuff I play so no need for the clever Warwick. I just couldn't get on with the cricket bat neck and lack of fret markers in the end. I also don't really like small bodied basses. It really is down to personal taste. I have a Korean made Squier 50th Anniversary P which is in mint condition Black and Rosewood and it plays like a dream. I might be persuaded to part with it if you are interested? LC[/quote] I have the Warwick Corvette $$ and yes, it is a fantastic bass. But I'm pretty sure it would be illegal for me to only have one bass Nah really, I love the look of Precision basses, and they feel so great to play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibob Posted May 21, 2011 Share Posted May 21, 2011 Yeah my Jazz blew my Corvette $$ away, thats not to say it will be like that for others. There's a couple of US Fenders in the For Sale section for between £475 - £600 Si Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyfisher Posted May 21, 2011 Share Posted May 21, 2011 My bet is that no one can reliably tell what sort of bass gear is used on a recording because playing technique and gear set-up is the most important factor. After that it's just a fashion show. So people only really need to decide if they're more worried about their image or their playing skills. This sort of debate is reminiscent of the 'Canon or Nikon' debates on photo forums when the reality is that it's completely irrelevant and neither will make or break a photographer. The important thing is to learn the craft of taking good photos. Same with bass playing. What's that old saying about poor workmen always blaming their tools? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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