EBS_freak

Indeed - when you go inears, you find out that there is no tweaking... as there is no volume wars and less ear fatigue that is egging you on to turn around and mess with your amp.

[quote name='dood' timestamp='1495577945' post='3305096'] As seen here: [url="https://www.acscustom.com/uk/products/in-ear-monitors/live-series"]https://www.acscusto...ors/live-series[/url] Would like to hear from users of the system please! Reviews and any thoughts. That would also include users of the T1, T2 and T3 Live! Systems too. [/quote] You probably know that I have this system with the T1s. It's really good - however, I still think that the actual inears are somewhat lacking for bass players. Their ethos is not to include the double low... and in reality, as a bass player, we really need the headroom in that department. So I have to say, I always find my ACS a little disappointing in that department. As for the microphones - again, good - as long as you are not in a loud band. Even with the pad engaged on the ambient pack, if the SPL in your environment is too loud, the inears will massively distort. I think the application where this product will really shine is as a singer on the theatre stage, say the West End. I would imagine it would be absolute killer for that. Not too loud surroundings, a clean input from the desk - and of course, a beautiful ambient surrounding. I know you are really into the ambient thing... but I think you will be very, very disappointed, especially coming from the A8s you currently sport. I was actually wondering if I could get my ACS respelled with mic gubbins - but the problem of the mic distorting would still be there I fear. I'm sure I could work the pin outs on the ambient pack and use some beefier mics you know...

[quote name='Ghost_Bass' timestamp='1495557582' post='3304809'] If the bass is good and quiet (no hums or RF noise) then go for it [/quote] I'm not sure why that would make a difference? Hums and RF is going to be present in a backline, just like it would a PA?

[quote name='LewisK1975' timestamp='1495554929' post='3304757'] Hey Russ, indeed the PA is fine, there are Mackie 18in subs and JBL PRX tops, which have two 15s and a tweeter each. Monitoring-wise I'm on in-ears (UE900s recommended by your good self) so no worries there..... Cheers dude. [/quote] In which case, go for it. You'll wonder why you didn't do it sooner.

It all depends... mostly on what speakers you are using with your PA. Have they got the guts to support everything you are throwing at it? But yes, it's all doable but you should look at your monitoring solution... don't rely on hearing everything you need to from the reflection from the front of house. I'll ditch the backline wherever I can... and the band sounds better out front for it.

[quote name='Iacopo San' timestamp='1495495992' post='3304275'] This seems to be just new from EH. [url="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgfj1aophTo"]https://www.youtube....h?v=rgfj1aophTo[/url] [/quote] Its good - but doesn't track that low. A I think.

Colour me interested. Looking to hear about the results.

[quote name='MacDaddy' timestamp='1495478787' post='3304087'] The folks at Xvive asked for a video of the U2 not working properly. Fortunately this very thing was available from a Junkyard Dogs gig. I sent it to them, so watch this space. [/quote] Good that you managed to get it on video - things like this are usually impossible to capture!

Wooks - you may find these interesting... http://www.accugroovellc.com/venti From the guys that bought you the 4/8 ohm cab 20 Hz - 20 kHz (±0.5 dB)

Hello! What bass are you playing with? Active/passive?

I'm pretty sure that has never been mentioned, so yeah, cool.

Lots of parallel surfaces. Check. You pretty much nailed it there - but lets not forget the hollow stage! Come to think of it, the support band may have sounded bigger due to the amount of reflections everywhere. Wooks- was the separation between instruments as distinct for both bands?

Cool venue - although the speaker alignment on the right could do with some work 😜 Without being there, I wouldn't want to comment too much, but with a decent PA, there's no reason why you couldn't make the second band sound as authoritative as the first. There's less open mics on stage for starters, so you'd get an increase in your headroom before feedback. I'm guessing you would have heard a lot of bleed from the kit in this size venue and situation - especially from the cymbals and snare. I wouldn't like to say for sure (equipment limiting) but there shouldn't have been any reason why the sound guy couldn't have made those without backline sound as big as the the guys with. At the end of the day, it's only about shifting air... Aha - fellow Kemper user - you do realise that you can use the monitor out without any modelling (so you get the sound of your profile and then the sound of the cab is provided by the cab itself) and send your main out to FOH - and that would have the cab emulation on it...? Again, if you want to hear the same as front of house as you can (that's assuming no tweaking of your sound at the desk... which is bound to happen anyway), you are right to look at FRFR.

Oh dear.

I concur. Were there any drums?

I'm guessing this was at a fairly small venue and you were standing close to the stage? If you think about a stadium gig (and yes, I do realise I am probably going the polar opposite there), the fact whether there is backline or not, is irrelevant as you won't hear it over the FOH PA anyway. In a small venue, you aren't going to get any bleed from the backline if there isn't any... but I would also wager there is no front fills meaning that the only sound you are hearing are from the L and R FOH which may be too far away from your (and off axis ) for you to get the full benefit of what they are doing. If there were subs and front fill in front of you, there's no reason why these guys (sorry, I'm not aware of your work) should be ripping your face out with the PA. It seriously sounds like the venue isn't best suited to that band - at the moment. No smaller venue bothers with front fill due to the amount of bleed from the stage... and it's why sometimes the vocals in small venues sound a bit lacking. I believe as the trend towards modelling gains momentum, more venues will be looking at installing front fill speakers (if they care, that is). Just a quick question though Wooks - are you looking at introducing some colour in to your tone (maybe a speaker emulation) - as you may find a FRFR solution a bit lacking if you are used to hearing the colourisation you get from traditional speakers and cabs?

Should probably clarify I mean standard boxes vs Bose line array (or any other line array in that price range really). My experience has shown me that array systems are pretty disappointing in smaller venues. K-Array seem the best - and are certainly way ahead of the competition - however, the dispersion is still narrow, so for most applications, unless you are playing some very large venues, standard boxes will serve you better than an array.

[quote name='three' timestamp='1493746225' post='3290408'] Bow re-sprayed the neck on my Status SII after it developed that characteristically milky look at the fretboard edges. The quality is nothing short of brilliant. Realistic prices for an incredibly professional job - easy to work with too. I've been told (but can't confirm) that Bow were the original finishers for Status. Mine's an early one so the neck may have been re-finished by the people that sprayed it in the first place (sort of nice if true) [/quote] This is correct -they were indeed the original spray guys for Status.

I'm not saying that they don't... It would be interesting to hear the difference between similar priced non Bose vs Bose setups though. Just to clarify, the F1s will take bass. The comment around being lacking in bass is around the L1s.

This may provide some inspiration. PA cab +

Funnily enough, that is probably the one situation where I would recommend somebody getting such a setup... based on the fact that it is small and portable and will do a compromised job OK. The top is bright - but comes with a lot of distortion. Makes for tired ears for the listeners - and yes, there is that big mid dip. The system, if not used correctly,will feed back as you say, as it subscribes to the same laws of physics as everything else. The tonematch mixer gives you very little to work with to combat feedback though!

A TC Helicon with feedback suppression is not the answer. Tune your PA to the room and a great deal of your feedback issues will disappear. If you want to use feedback suppression devices, best to do it on your main outputs, not your pre you PA preamps. I'm a big convert in ditching the amp/cab thing and letting the PA do the work. Everything out front just sounds much, much nicer... and at the end of the day, thats what we want the punters to hear isn't it?

Gosh, there's that marketing in play again - although to be fair, it depends upon which system you are talking about. So, the L1s... Yeah, they are sold on this whole premise that you don't need monitors either - and you can have the speakers behind you so you can hear yourself. (and do you really want foh volumes rushing directly past your ears?) Spoiler - they still feedback like any other system! The new Bose systems, the F1 - well, A/B them against any comparably priced system and let me know what you think! To be fair to Bose, their marketing game has been strong on the F1... but whether it actually holds water... well, I've probably already said too much in this thread already on that front. Don't want it derailing again. *Apologies if anybody with Bose gear takes offence*