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[quote name='sshorepunk' timestamp='1464012016' post='3055732'] Still waiting for more opinions on this I've been gigging a streamliner, whilst I like it, I do miss the top end zing I've had from previous amps, it is a great sound, nice n warm Tony [/quote] Only just seen this one - I went from a Streamliner to a Magellan, and while there's a family resemblance, the Magellan's contour controls open out a lot more possibilities, and that (for me) blooming Streamliner bottom end which I struggled to control (there were some cabs with which it just didn't get on) is much tighter. There's an authority to the amp, too, and a responsiveness to input I've rarely encountered.

Yup, I've just bought another one as a backup - never had an amp fail on me live, and I don't need the sound help with my amp, but now I've got one in my gigbag, I'm covered. With previous amps (LMIII, etc) I've used the BDI21 and the full-price Sansamps, and had great results. There's a link to a great price on them somewhere on here, too...

Hahahaa...I'm loving this thread...I can smell the burning tooth enamel from here... Well done Alex, and a serious rig there...I'd still want a roadie to carry those heads, mind...has Timmy never heard of the advantages of Class D?

All I'm gonna say is the new Genzler Magellan's a helluva thing.

Thanks for the link, been pondering one just for a gigbag backup DI. Used one of these (and Sansamps) for a while when I had, erm, 'blander' amps (LMIII, etc), and for the money they're very very good. In a band context, sound wise, there's very very little difference between these and the 'real thing'. Not gonna be using it in my signal chain, as with the Magellan I don't need to, but as a DR backup, worth £20 all day...

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[quote name='EBS_freak' timestamp='1464347956' post='3058667'] To be fair, that's not fixing, that's just changing my words to contradict the history of what has been said on this very forum. In other news, black is now white. [/quote] [quote name='EBS_freak' timestamp='1464348343' post='3058671'] I don't think you understand what you are saying. I'm not the one being burnt. I dont used Barefaced cabs. As a consequence, I don't have to look into my amps, cables, basses, setups, technique or the alignment of the Earth if I was to hear a tone I don't like coming from a cab... [/quote] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Aww I love a bit of fishing.[/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]2 bites in one go.[/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]:-p[/font][/color]

[quote name='EBS_freak' timestamp='1464347802' post='3058662'] 3 [s]bites[/s] burns in one go. [/quote] Fixed again...

[quote name='EBS_freak' timestamp='1464343985' post='3058597'] To be honest, I have never read so much about a brand of cab that requires as much input from [s]the end user to do a job[/s] people who don't own or gig them. [/quote] Fixed it for you...

[quote name='Kevin Dean' timestamp='1463956900' post='3055380'] Jon Shuker made a bass for me for less than that . [/quote] This.

If we have a dep whose timing's shaky and doesn't respond to visual cues (a bit of foot stomping or head-nodding), then there's a 'change of plan' suggested, involving a pair of headphones and a click track for the rest of the set... They don't get a second call...

Yep, exactly that... I use these at all gigs...

[quote name='discreet' timestamp='1463511070' post='3051989'] I'm pretty sure you'd know, even blindfold. The good news is I have played an SVT/810 this year and I was gratified to learn that it's just as I remember it, if not better. Still the benchmark, imho. But I'd like to hear an SVT through a BF Six10 or Eight10, I think that might well be an acceptable compromise... or even a Big Twin 2, in fact. [/quote] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif] [/font][/color][color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]That's good enough for me. I'm still never gonna try and get one into an estate car at one in the morning again, though... [/font][/color]

The sheer practicalities of my gigging life apart, I'd be very interested to AB my present rig with a SVT/810 (preferably blind, to remove the 'phwoooar, lookit that' factor), just to see if what I remember about the sound really was all that in a live situation. I'm one of the people on here who always say "SVT/810" when dream rigs are mentioned, but it's been a loooong time since I played through one, and lots and lots of things I thought were fantastic back then might not be quite as I fondly recall. I had a shock when I bought a Rickenbacker a while back as I really didn't like it (though it looked great), and there's waaaay to much photographic evidence still remaining as to my fashion decisions which really don't bear scrutiny. I wonder if it's the same with my old big heavy rigs?

A couple of our dep drummers have very small light kits (one's a drum teacher who doesn't drive - he can get the whole thing on one of those little collapsible trolleys for public transport), but the subs are always still a pain. And we sometimes have a dep guitarist with a stupidly heavy 212 combo. Which no-one volunteers to carry... But the less weighty kit the band has overall, the less weight we all have to carry... And there's no-one but me to load my car in and out of the house...

[quote name='Agwin' timestamp='1463310584' post='3050321'] I've realised I've been playing a mildly alternative bass line - which to date has not been mentioned by either the band or punters. [/quote] Yep, this. Nothing iconic (there are some lines and riffs which definitely need to be right), but just adjustments to the original: no covers band (or even tribute band) has the same mix of talents as the original, so I go by what works best for the song and the band, and I don't kill myself about being exactly note for note.

I had an SVT and a fridge back in the day, because that was what you aspired to in the the genre I was playing (see pics above), but these days I use lighter, smaller kit because it sounds better and makes life easier. Why wouldn't I? Without wanting to join in on the 'well every bass player I know does this thing that supports my argument' Hoohah, I suspect if every bass player in the country was aware of all the options, things might be different. Oh, and anyone who judges themselves against the size/bulk of another player's rig (especially on the wimp/manliness scale) needs to have a good long look at themselves...

[quote name='Kev' timestamp='1463094772' post='3048650'] Id love to here how this head compares to the GK MB Fusion 500. Other than a valve preamp they seem to have a lot in common, with the Genz working out cheaper due to higher wattage. [/quote] I had a Fusion 500 for a while - I swapped it for my Streamliner, regretted it, and swapped it back - and it's got a distinct voicing, which I've seen described as 'growly', but was a little harsh for me: I'd put it more into 'barky'. If that's your tone goal, then fantastic, it just wan't mine. Obviously, it can be EQ'd away from that, but the core tone wasn't for me. I'd say the Magellan is a much more versatile amp, and of course will go to 800w at 2.67 ohms. IMHO, YMMV, etc. I'd recommend trying one out - Bass Direct have them in stock... If you want a more apples vs apples comparison money-wise, you'd need to look at the Fusion 800, which is pretty much the same money. Mind you, if you're using a single 112, the power uplift between 500 and 800 isn't really an issue...

Aaaargh! That 112 vertically's setting off my OCD something rotten - wait till Discreet sees it... Seriously, though, that's a lovely looking rig.

I've just posted a review of their excellent new Magellan amp...

After a birthday visit down to Bass Direct a couple of weeks ago, the inevitable has happened...I just accidentally had the credit card with me, and...new amp. I'd been after some serious modularity in my rig for a wee while, and the prospect of another, louder band to supplement the shortfall in function gigs this year meant I'd been looking at the Magellan and its 2.67 ohm potential for a while. Sooo...a third Berg AE112, thanks to Nick Harrison on here (cheers fella!), and a Magellan means I can take up to three cabs to gigs and really cover any eventuality. I've gigged the rig in both 2 cab and 3 cab incarnations, and man, it works. I haven't needed PA support anywhere yet, though I'd take it if needed. The Magellan is a fantastic amp, the chaps at Genzler have got it absolutely right on the money, and it has an awful lot going for it. The two channels mean I can have real flexibility of tone at a button push (or stomp, if I add a pedal) to switch between them, and the volumes can compensate for bass changes - for example if I wanted, I could run an active bass into the Clean channel, say one of my Shukers, and have a really modern tone, and run a P into the drive channel without having to adjust volumes when switching. It's been described as a combination of the Shuttle and Streamliner, but it's better than that - IME it takes the best of both and does away with the downsides of either (I found the Shuttles a little too clinical and possibly 'brittle', and the biiiig bloom of the Streamliner always need reigning in). Those Contour options are very 'musical', for want of a better word - they're a cousin of the Markbass VLE and VPF (which I never really got on with), but much, much more useable in the real world, and they are really interesting if used in combinations with the channels - one's a modern scoop, which you'd think would be best with the Clean channel, the other's a mid-bump and top-end rolloff which you'd think was Drive channel-tastic, but they also work really well with the opposite channels, too, so there's some really interesting things to play with. The Drive channel's drive (dur) is the first non-actual-valve tone which has made me forget there aren't valves in there - it's warm and organic and then some. The EQ is also very real-world practical and useable - a single parametric mid is plenty for me, but I'm using it sparingly at the moment. A little goes a long way. Again, the word I'd use is 'musical' - it's the word that sums up the East preamps for me, too, and it was what struck me first. The amp also works very well with playing dynamics (especially the Drive channel), and responds to your input better than anything I've used before. Very satisfying. And now to the controversial bit - it's no secret where I stand on the 'heft' debate - I've played Class Ds that have had plenty of it, and Class A/Bs that haven't (and vice versa), and the Streamliner I had outlasted all sorts of other amps (11, by my count), but this amp brings a weight to notes that I haven't heard before. Whether it's the new power module, or the Genzler implementation of it, or both (I haven't played any other of the new Class D stuff) I don't know, but it's there. It's not just volume (and with the three cabs there's a play-any-gig amount of that), it's an authority. It's a very long time since I've played through a big all-valve head and an 810 fridge, so I might have rose-tinted specs on here, but if I'm remembering right, that's the impression. It's immaculately made, reeks quality and is very quiet. On both the three-cab gigs I've played it hasn't even warmed up. Given the longevity with me of the Streamliner, this is gonna be a keeper. Do I sound happy with it? Yep, I am. Anyway, I'm fully aware that none of this means jack without at least a pic, sooooo....here you go: [attachment=219208:Triple Bergs.JPG] Edit: oh, fer crying out loud...how do you get the damn picture the right way up with this damn uploader?

Right now it's Uptown Funk - it might decline in popularity in the future, but these days it's a banker...

Pleasant and simple deal with Martin, a natter and a laugh...despite the location (ropey ASDA car park) A pillar of this establishment...

I'd forgotten to post here, but given Karl's feedback posts fly by as fast as the whole For Sale forum, I thought I'd step in at this point. Another (yeah, I'm nearly as bad as he is) happy transaction with the Wigan Wonder*. * Not necessarily a good thing, as in "I wonder what that is?"

Yup to all the above, they're as good as anything you can buy, and better than most; my two are going nowhere, and I'm after Jon making me a replacement neck for the Fenderbird next. If I had the money, my hobby would be commissioning Jon to make basses for me...