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If we don't mic the kick drum on some smaller gigs , I sometimes reinforce the percussive element with muted playing or full muted palm slaps , it can provide a bit of a thump sometimes .

[quote name='tonyf' timestamp='1349703543' post='1829286'] There's also that bloke from Good Luck Charlie on The Disney Channel. Bob. Just so there's no misunderstanding, my 7 year old daughter watches it. Not me. Right?! Are we clear?! [/quote] Are you trying to convince us you are not a HUGE fan of the Bob Duncan Experience I don't watch it either ..........Good Luck Tony

We did a 40th with a pirate fancy dress theme, it was a great night and everyone was up for it with some fantastic outfits , some of the girls were brilliant, short skirts, frilly tops, thigh boots and top dancing, boy did I drop a few notes I had made up for it beforehand though as we had a couple of kit issues which I cabled up a bit different and it worked quite well and they all thought I had saved the day.

I thought these were dimmable , no need to have them bright as a bright thing

I made a couple of enquiries on a bass from the states , and boy do they want to do a deal, they will reduce the declared value fro vat and duty etc , but they are in the realms of pestering , I am not a tyre kicker and I respect the fact that they are asking for a sale , but I am not keen on the tactics and the duplicitous paperwork .

I bought a couple of remote control dmx cans , ADJ I think and a laser , not a masive light show but I can alter the look quite easy and the sound to light works ok , but not really adjustable . I ofetn find the ceilings quite low and stage area small so I tend to bounce the lights off the ceilings and it tends to go a lot further as the whole stage area is washed over .

Brilliant , great fun and a good idea , I would however consider micing up the kick drum , it isn't quite high enough in the mix

I didn't really mean to have a muse v PIL argument , though I too am very much getting more from the 'punk' genre now than I did originally probably, in a middle age, middle class hijacking kind of way I guess, that would offend the stapled devotees. I was rather, dissapointed at the "live" or lack of it aspect to the show , I would hate it to fall into the TOTP cheese fest that it became.

I really get jools cred and talent and generally like "later" and ive seen threads about recorded "live" sessions , maybe I am missing something and the live bit is purely that we see the artists are breathing in real time but.... I have just seen Muse again , and I know that if I move insignificantly from the mic or turn away , my vocal falls out of the mix , I know my technique is not fantastic, but I cannot believe that the performance coming through my TV speakers is that which is being performed "live" in a number of cases . then PIL come on and it looks pukka ??

come along now gents, A predominantly male discussion group discussing methods of improving wrist stamina and no one has mentioned 99 then change hands ?

[quote name='Dr.Dave' timestamp='1348398556' post='1813074'] Damp squib in Leeds getting damper - so we we unleashed our secret weapon halfway through the 2nd set. Mustang Sally - the tune so collectively hated by us snobby musicians. 3 lookers straight up on stage to be backing singers ......... morphed the ending into Lulu's 'Shout'................... place went mental. Back into our regular rocking set with our newly found audience still going nuts all the way to the end and screaming for more. Lesson to be learned , folks. [/quote] for parties ,theres no doubt that old favourites are favourites for a reason , Summer of 69 works in a similar manner

A busy weekend for the Razors A 40th party on Friday, went really well , we were a tad loose and changed the set on the fly to keep the crowd lively but it worked well. Last night it was another 40th but the lead guitarists youngster had a bad temperature and it is a recurrence of a previous issue so was touch and go , but reckoned he could join us for an hour if her temperature leveled out. after some quick hashing for the first set , he called to say he would get there in 20 mins , so we held off and nailed it , after 3 songs of the second set he got a call and had to go, so we winged / chopped and changed and got through OK , the birthday boy was chuffed with the show after being very nervous when he new the guitarists/our problems. As everyone was up for a dance by this point, I think artistic detail was less important than a good singalong , still the rhythm guitar stood up to the plate and his confidence carried it. The youngster is getting better today , but they were close to calling ambulences last night .

I still get the big I am , from a few angles , mostly customers , who generally have been given advice by mates in the pub that are experts in everything after a couple of pints. Generally , if someone needs to argue how 20 years of experience gives them one up on you , you might find that they only have one years experience and it is 20 years old !! Learning to handle/ignore/influence/learn from these people is what your experience will teach you .

Welcome No ( if I may be so familiar)

Cheers Andy, could do that , but just less kit is good , as is less set up , if it was my own stuff supporting the idea I could get on with it but the old Pareto principle comes in , you spend 80% more effort for a 20% sound improvement , or something like that . Some might say sound is all , but a harmonious band atmosphere helps aswell !!

It sounds like there are no shortcuts on this one then , thanks for your advice. I do like the thump , but the guitards don't really get it , and bringing more kit is feasable but in the bands the guys used to play in the sound stage got to a ridiculous point that they got to a pub 3-4 hrs early to set up . I think they get a bit nervy when I propose more kit and set up , Ah well , simple is good I suppose, I guess as we are called Okkams Razor , I shouldn't be trying to complicate the matter

I am sure there are any number of valid reasons not to , and I guess I will get them, but I had a thought ...... we have a fairly minimal band set up , but some think that the kick drum needs a bit of oomph. we have no subs jsut PA tops , so, would it be possible to put a kick mic (via a pre) through a power amp and share my shcroeder 210112 to thump it out ? The cab takes a fair bit of power , and I am aware of muddying the tone with bass and kick frequencies , but to keep the kit to a minimum , does the idea have legs , or will I blow my rig to pieces . thanks in advance

Ha , they'll all have to get the pencils out again now , you really do enjoy the 'suck it and see' method don't you

samson here , great bit of kit , but it does chew the batteries , probably 6- 8 hrs in the sender , I have a mains adaptor for the reciever. but have gone rechargeable so its not really an issue

I was in Cornwall last month , I even went to see Joe , but it was his day off

I think making them might cost a tad more

sometimes the heightened nervousness / apprehension focuses the senses and enhances the experience , and sometimes you get a tosser , glad it went well . [quote name='BigRedX' timestamp='1347186426' post='1797717'] We might be doing this with The Terrortones (due to family commitments for our proper drummer) and I'm pretty nervous about it. The drum parts for our songs are pretty much integral to the arrangement and far more than just someone hitting stuff in time. There are also subtle tempo changes stops and starts in the middle of songs, weird bar counts and missing beats all of which will have to be nailed otherwise it's not going to be right. [/quote] good luck on this one , you guys do a show , there is more to a show than meets the eye , you have put a lot into the dynamics which can be very subtle , I hope it works out for you .

[quote name='wombatboter' timestamp='1347715088' post='1804278'] Don't agree.. I quite liked the sound... already people sound too much the same. Great playing by the way.. great phrasing and ideas. [/quote] I loved the tone, phrasing , ideas and great playing , for me I find I often tend to listen for the bass , but on this occasion I was struggling to hear anything else . [heresy] if the bass was to come out for parts , great, but it seemed far to prominent in the mix , each to his own though [/heresy] did I really say that !!!!!!

[quote name='Lfalex v1.1' timestamp='1347660065' post='1803875'] I think my mileage is most definitely varying on this one. The Missus is watching it and it's driving me mental. Someone get that SR505 off him and thrust a Jazz 5 or summat in his hands. Waaaaaay too forward. [/quote] +1 , I was fine for the first 15min then it just wasn't right , a bit irritating really , fine playing but just toooo much of it IMO