JohnDaBass

+1 A couple of BF Super Compacts with a Mesa Subway D800 (or D800+) would provide a broad range of powerful tones for most outdoor or large venues. Also provides flexibility for smaller venues. The new Fender Rumble 800HD would be a slightly lower cost solution.

Zomboi maybe 😂

@Al Krow & @dave_bass5 how does the HPF compare to the Thumpinator?

I would like to voice my (& our) grateful thanks to our "First Adopter" contributors @Al Krow & @dave_bass5 for their informative insights to the new Zoom B1Four. Thanks Guys! Really helpful!

Yup you maybe right about the "positive " feel of footswitches for a live situation.

Oooooooooo Lush. Can't wait for mine to show up.

Yup, fair enough ! good point! Let's hope some of the GAK staff read this site!! Let us know how you @Al Krow & @dave_bass5 get on with your units.

That's a bit Naff, Zoom UK under cutting their loyal retailers. GAK charge £4.99 for shipping and Thomann charge £8.60 for shipping. I'm struggling to understand why would Zoom UK want to sell products before they are available through their normal retails routes to market? Could they be "Pre production Units"? When I had a "proper " job we used to sell off all our pre-production units to staff at a big discount because the manufacturing processes were not finalized during the pre-production run. Where products were produced by " Contract Manufacturers" initial quantities were built in-house to verify quality standards, manufacturing systems and Test systems and then mass production commenced at the Sub-Contractor. Initial mass production samples would be shipped by the Contract Manufacturer to us for approval before large shipments were dispatched. These few units maybe early mass pro samples. I wonder what serial numbers will be on the units sold via eBay? That's always a good clue to the type of production batch.

Mark sold me a High Mass bridge, great bridge, good coms, fast delivery,really nice Guy to deal with. Buy with confidence!

GAK Fender Rumble 500 or Mesa Subway D800 into one or two BF Super Compacts. I use the amps set for a preselected tone or set clean/flat, then have preselected tones on the pedal board to toggle between each tone for specific songs. When the B1Four arrives I'll post a before & after on the "Show your pedal board thread" of the small board and the other larger board I use.

According to the FX list I've downloaded from the Zoom site there are 10 amp Sims and 12 cab Sims on the B1Four.

Nope, I plan on keeping my MS-60B (metal case & very robust) for tuner and HPF then the B1Four (not the X) for amp Sims, cab Sims and compressor duties. Bass>> MS-60B >> B1Four >> Tech21 VT Bass DI>> Amp (Fender Rumble 500 or Mesa Subway D800)>> BF Super Compact x1or 2.

Ordered yesterday, due next week. I'll keep you Guys updated.

I believe the Elf is produced by Trace Elliot!

+1

The Barefaced One 10 is not a straightforward cab design. It actually has TWO ports, one round plastic down firing and the other is a vertical slot port hidden behind the rear of the speaker creating a second chamber in the cab. Shine a torch up the plastic port and you can see the second chamber and slot port. TBH as it's your first cab build I would encourage you to consider building one of the Basschat designs by @Phil Starr & @stevie that way you will achieve a decent sounding cab and the enjoyment of building it yourself. I've got a couple of 12ins speakers from past projects lying around PM me if you want to have a low cost entry into your cab build.

Clear, thank you.

Indeed by placing "Low EQ" first in the B3n chain may actually free up some DSP processor capacity as any compressor placed next in the chain will NOT be working so hard. "Process Overflow " may not occur.

Exactly, Just trying to get close to a Thumpinator. Set "Low Eq" to 30Hz. Just need to know if it's best to use two in series to get similar performance to the Thumpinator. I use a Thumpinator on my large board so I appreciate it's benefits. On my MS-60B I use two or even three "Ac Bs Pre" to get close to the Thumpinator.

Does anyone know how steep the gradient of the "Low Eq" is on B3n or B1Four? Is it 12dB per octave or 24dB per octave. I seem to recall that the Thumpinator is 24dB/Octave.

+1 They really do look the part.

Indeed @LukeFRC it does answer my question and I agree that just one "Low EQ" would probably be enough. Thank you for your contribution. Yes I saw that from the Effects list on the Zoom site. And as @Al Krow has previously said the "Low Eq" works really well when compared to the Thumpinator he has on his board. I am convinced that the B1Four will be right for me, like @Al Krow I will probably keep my MS-60B. Most suppliers are still quoting 3 weeks delivery.

@jrixn1 you are correct but the "AC Bs Pre" seems to consume quite a fair amount of DSP as I get into a "Process Overflow " when using AC Bs Pre x 2 + compressor + one Amp Sim. Which was the reason for the original question regarding process overflow on the B3n. If Zoom add the "Low EQ" HPF used on the B3n and B1Four to the MS60B then your idea maybe very well work. But the simplicity of stepping up and down patches on the B1Four is akin to selecting one of the six footswitches on the VT Bass DI Deluxe. I really do love the analogue tone stack on the Tech21 VT Bass DI Deluxe .

My main board is Bass>>Tuner>>Thumpinator>> Spectracomp >> EMX ABYswitch(faux guitar)>>Tech21VT bass DI Deluxe >> amp ( Mesa Subway D800)>> Barefaced Super Compact x2. My small board is Bass>> MS-60B (tuner & HPF)>> BD21dI>> Tech21 VT bass DI >> amp (Fender Rumble 500)>> Barefaced Super Compact x1 So I try to simulate the Thumpinator with a 40Hz 24Db/Octave on the MS60B. The two bands I play requires several bass tones which I can achieve on the main board with the six memories on the VT Deluxe but would like to emulate on the small board by maybe adding a B1Four.