JohnDaBass

Stevie, what charger are you using? I have looked at the Panasonic BQ-C51, the BQ-C16 ( Smart charger) and BQ-CC55. Or are you using a different brand charger?

Before spending lots of cash , try a BDI 21 for DI and "warming up" your sound. VT Bass DI is a great solution.

Exactly!! 🙂

Boss have released a new version WL- 60 it looks very appealing, shame about the price. https://www.notreble.com/buzz/2019/06/25/boss-introduces-the-wl-60-wireless-system/

This appears to be a very attractive back-up amp proposition. For around £250 you get quite good value for money. I wonder what Class D module they are using? I'm sure by now there are some excellent clones of the most popular Class D modules. I really like the pre amp in & out sockets in addition to the FX send & return.

@Al Krow, please would you share your "Gain" setting on your Low Eq ? Type >>> HPF Freq>>>> 30 Gain>>> 6???? Vol>>> 70 Is that correct? Cheers Bas

SORRY, @Al Krow, I am wrong it is 12dB per octave. Mis-read a previous comment on the B1Four Patches thread! Apologies to all for the error

The new HPF on the B1Four has adjustable frequency cut points( I set mine at 40Hz) and a 24dB per octave gradient. The MS60B does not have a dedicated HPF but has a great bass preamp that can be setup to emulate a HPF, however to get close to the Thumpinator you need two in series as each only has a 12dB per octave gradient. If you are going the single pedal route , as everyone says, start with a Thumpinator and a TC Spectracomp.

I really wouldn't worry too much about the comments on the noise it's miniscule and you probably won't detect it. I totally agree with @Al Krow, try a B1Four and load up some of the patches posted and see if it works for you.

FYI got an email yesterday saying B1Four won't be available until the end on June!

I didn't detect it at rehearsal levels (Rumble 500 into one BF SC) last night! I remain very happy with the B1Four performance. The only question that sprung to my mind was " are these units Pre-production units " since Zoom UK were selling well before the major retailers. Normally a small quantity of units are produced on the assembly lines to "prove & validate " the manufacturing processes before mass production commences. While the pre-pro units are a final hardware status the manufacturing test software and final product software may not have been concluded. I ordered mine from a retailer who e-mailed a day or so later to inform me that delivery would be at the end of May. So in the meantime I bought a B1Four from Zoom UK. I have been so pleased that I didn't cancel my order as I wanted two units, one for my small pedal board and one for battery, single use for my duo project. If my assumption is correct the retailer units maybe mass production units so it will be interesting to see how it performs in comparison to the B1Four I already have.

Nope can't hear anything on the MS60B. But I am not a good judge as both my 67 year old ears enjoy tinnitus and have been abused standing in front of bl**dy noisey bass stacks for the last fifty odd years or so😆

Ok, so I've plugged up my B1Four into my Mackie Thump12A frfr (lower case characters as it is really league division 2 compared to Headrush, RCF & K12) which I use for a Duo project in small pubs. Went through my own patches, and some of the original patches which were not culled when the B1Four first arrived, and yup I can just hear some digital noise which I hadn't detected previously. The Thump12A has a higher frequency response than the BF SC and does expose the slight digital noise if you listen closely. An Alesis SR16 drum machine is run into channel 2 and my bass via the B1Four into channel 1 of the Thump 12A normally and I'm sure any noise from the Zoom won't be noticeable in a pub gig environment. Until it was pointed out to me I hadn't noticed any slight noise and as I won't be using the B1Four for any recording I'm quite happy to ignore this minor issue of what seems to me to be a very decent value-for-money multi effect/ amp sim pedal.

@Al Krow and @ped please could you share which effects seem to cause the digital noise you are experiencing? I use a BF Super Compact and I don't detect any digital noise on the patches I have created, which are mainly Amp Sims with no distortion effects. Mostly patches are :- >>bass>>HPF>>Comp>>Amp Sim >> VT Bass DI>> Subway D800(set flat) >>BF SC.

+1☺

Nah, leave it with the Tele neck it looks handsome. If you're planning to spend anymore on it upgrade the PUPs & pots. Lovely job well done I'm really envious!

Well I think I've achieved what I planned when purchasing the B1Four. I've created patches which emulate (95%) of the main 6 pre-sets on my Tech21 VT Bass DI Deluxe. I culled all the standard patches which were of no use to me and organised the patches that are nice to have in banks 10 & 20. My VT Bass patches are saved in 51 thro 57 with Thumpinator at 48, Spectracomp at 49 and Thumpinator + Spectracomp at 50 (basic pass through). I'm definitely going to key the MS60B at the start of my chain/board, then B1Four into my Tech21 VT Bass DI. All three fit nicely into the small case protecting the B1Four and providing good footswitch access. I now enjoy 100% redundancy so if any single item should fail on a live gig the remaining pedals would get me through . Unlike @Al Krow I'm not planning to sell on any of my current pedals, simply because they don't eat or drink and their value is relatively low in comparison to their sentimental value. All in all the B1Four has been a good investment for me.

+1 for Fender Kingman. It is BIG but lovely to play with a Jazz size neck and great preamp containing notch filter & phase to control any body resonance. Acoustically the loudest I heard but a small amp is probably the best setup.

So here is my Patch for the Free & Bad Company songs. Fender P Bass, flats, & tone fully open into Fender Rumble 500 Head( set flat) & BF SC

We always do that in D.

@Al Krow thanks for that. I think your settings are just right for me as an always on effect. It only "costs" 13% of DSP allocation so it's going to be be standard on all my patches now. That's another example of how rich with knowhow this BC community really is. It's extremely gratifying to able to have other people's ears to confirm and verify personal assessments of setups of kit.👏

It looks handsome. Is it 34ins scale? Because the string alignment over the PUP pole pieces looks spot on. The bridge string spacing looks really tight.

+1 I have never used a Helix Stomp so I can't comment but the combination of ToneLib and the B1Four provide an easy, user friendly, simplistic method of creating bass sounds and tones. I really couldn't be happier with the product. I sit the B1Four on my desk beside the pc keyboard, power it with the USB cable then connect my bass to both the B1FOUR and my pedal board then the output from the Zoom & pedal board go through a switch into my Fender Rumble and BF Super Compact. I can then emulate the pedal board sounds thro the B1Four using ToneLib to tweak the Patch settings & save on the Zoom and save a backup on the pc.Using the switch to toggle back & forth means I can get really close to my pedal board's bouquet of tones using the live amp rig ( okay only at room volume).

Well I have had a couple of days now to get to know the B1-Four, like many I have "Culled" 20 patches which were definitely not for me leaving 30 slots for building my own patches. I downloaded all the "Blue Star" effects not loaded when the unit was shipped through the Zoom Guitar Lab software. I have to say how pleased and impressed I am with the quality and the authenticity of the Amp Sim sounds. ( YES I KNOW they are not as good as the Line6 Helix) I have built 6 Preset Amp Tones that I require for my bands and they sound very ,very close to the sounds I achieve with my VT Bass DI Deluxe, so close in fact, that I don't think anyone could distinguish the difference in a live environment. Done all my tweaking thro Tone Lib using both my Amp rigs so I was able to have a direct comparison. Next task is to put the HPF through it's paces by removing the front speaker grills of my cabs and seeing if it can get close to the Thumpinator. At present I still think I will keep my MS60-B for tuner & HPF duties and toying with the thought that I may get a second B1-Four to take in my bass guitar case for some of the open-mic nights I frequent in local Pubs who provide a backline. The convenience, portability and compactness of the B1-Four really does allow you to take "Your Sound" with you anywhere. ( Okay, I know there's no DI!!!! but I can always chuck in my case my spare BDI21) All in all I think Zoom has done a good job!