dave_bass5

[quote name='warwickhunt' post='1216871' date='May 1 2011, 08:35 PM']Why would you want to lower the input gain and balance it by increasing the output to where it is clipping? If the input is suitably matched to the output from your bass then you should have a nice healthy signal that need not be too thick as to sound overdriven. Sorry if I'm misunderstanding what you are trying to achieve. [/quote] The way I figure it is if I reduce the input to the tube and turn off the boost I'll get a cleaner tone but by doing this I will also need to up the master to compensate. I'm assuming I might need to push the master quite high to achieve the same volume, but cleaner. Again, this is all based on the one gig so I might be jumping the gun a bit.

I understand about too much volume can damage the speakers but the way I'm seeing it is I want to be a le to reduce the input stage and have the gain button out, without loosing volume. I think to do this I need to turn the output up quite high to match the level with the button in and gain up at about 11 o'clock if that makes sence. The gigs I do would never require me to turn up enough to damage the cab. At least using a lower powered version gives me the chance to use the 3D power management feature. The DI out is pre or post EQ and it's the gain and pre knobs that seems to determine the output level through the DI. I was running it post though and will try pre next time but as it's a vocal PA and im just going through it for a bt more spread I normally go post on my SA450 to get a better tone. I tried everything flat onthe 600 but it still clipped the input (both mic and line level).

[quote name='Raggy' post='1216701' date='May 1 2011, 05:31 PM']Dave, I asked Roger over on TB about the light coming on as was told "The light just means you're engaging the 3dPM section"[/quote] Thanks for that, I feel a bit better about it now. I guess this might be the one advantage the 600 has over the 900 for smaller gigs. I did sound good, whatever was happening.

I think you are right John. I just need to get used to it. It was a good tone and I'm very happy with the amp, I just can't help worrying about that peak LED coming on so early. Seing as both my rigs for the past few years have been 500watts in to one 12xx cab I know it's loud enough, I just don't want to get any dirtier.

Thanks Chris. I would say the MB is thicker and fills out the low mids more. The 600 has a more articulate tone, lots of mids but not in a muddy way, so there is more space in the lower freqs of the mix. I'm happy with the tone and maybe I need to adjust to the different tone. I might then end up not pushing the amp too hard. The cab has loads of mids so it wast a case of not cutting through or not being heard, more a case of a bit bass light. I have also been using a BDDI recently and didn't last night so again, a tone I'm not yet familiar with. Changing the cab isn't really an option as I can't afford to , and I can't really get anything bigger. I do know that a bigger cab will help but I've been using the 1212L for a few years and I know it's good enough for most of our gigs.

I might just be jumping the gun a bit. Seeing as this was in a tent i would expect to turn up a bit more than in a indoor venue. Normally my 500watt SA450 never goes over halfway so while the 600 coped just as well I was worried that the peak LED came on a few times with the master below halfway. Its probably down to how I had the input set. With the gain on 11 and pre on 2-3 the input on the desk was also peaking, and this was with the input gain turned right down. I also had the gain button in so that didn't help. I'm sure this amp will be fine for most of our gigs but I am looking in to maybe doing a trade in if it doesn't cost me too much.

Just finished my fist gig with my 600 and the jury is still out. It was a very nice tone, no doubt, and quite different from my SA4500 so it will take a few gigs to get used to it. I do think i need a 900 though so i will will look in to trading the 600 in fi i can. Tone wise it was nice, each note had authority and although different to what im used ot hearing, it made a nice change but i cant help feeling im going to run out of headroom at some of my bigger gigs. The amp cut out a couple of times during one number where i was slapping hard (i dont make a habbit of doing this) Although the peak LED was lighting up im not sure if it was the amp or my radio system cutting out, it has done this in the past so maybe it wasnt the amp. I had no other problems with the amp though and i dont for one min think the amp is faulty.

[quote name='bobbytodd' post='1215547' date='Apr 30 2011, 09:27 AM']we dont bother with setlists our singer just tells us whats next.its his job to read the crowd.the only down side with this system is he tends to have his faves so the set dosnt get rotated as much as id like[/quote] Exactly what we do, although we do all tend to have some input. It does rather limit what songs we play though as my singer does rely on lyric sheets for newer songs so we cant just go straight in to them.

Yeah, good luck with the next wave Gareth.

[quote name='Alfie' post='1212384' date='Apr 27 2011, 10:23 AM']I also enjoyed it, especially as Avery Sunshine's bass player seemed to be playing a Squier Classic Vibe, awesome![/quote] I was wondering about that bass. I only caught a few secs of it last night as i prefer to watch it in HD at the weekends but it was nice to see a Squier on there.

[quote name='Clarky' post='1212335' date='Apr 27 2011, 09:31 AM']Bit extreme Dave![/quote] Ooops, maybe it a new keyboard i should have brought. Fixed. Actually, as the gig is in a Teepee maybe it should be Sioux-ing ;-)

[quote name='wateroftyne' post='1212332' date='Apr 27 2011, 09:22 AM']Relax - mine's done loads, and it's fine. [/quote] Yeah, im sure its going to be fine, as are the many others out there.

[quote name='wateroftyne' post='1212317' date='Apr 27 2011, 09:05 AM']Best edit the post, then - we don't want to mislead anyone, do we? (btw, one of Ken's problems was a dodgy valve, which could have broke during shipping. Just sayin'.)[/quote] Done. I really dont want to come across as a GB hater, im not and i love my SL600 so far, but in the past week ive read of 3 faulty heads and this is making me nervous. I know these things happen but they shouldn't, and its the same old argument, great service means nothing if an amp fails mid gig. lets hope this is the end of it for Gareth, its about time he had some good luck and im really looking forward to using mine at its first gig on Sat.

[quote name='wateroftyne' post='1212295' date='Apr 27 2011, 08:09 AM']Just out of interest, what was the other dud Genz amp Gareth had?[/quote] Sorry, that was a typo, im meant to write Ken Jung, not Gareth.

[quote name='wateroftyne' post='1211906' date='Apr 26 2011, 06:45 PM']Crap happens. It's how it's resolved that counts.[/quote] Do you work for Ashdown ;-)

[quote name='wateroftyne' post='1211879' date='Apr 26 2011, 06:25 PM']Nice to see Fender upholding Genz' reputation, I think.[/quote] Well so far Gareth has had one dud amps from Genz and KJung has had two, all with "Passed QC" tags on them. Is that the rep you mean ;-) Only joking (sort of). EDITED to correct my mistake.

Great new Gareth, although i would say great service from Fender rather than Genz in this case.

I assume your hearing this with all your basses and not just the active ones, all plugged directly in to the head? I hope you find the cause of this quickly. What with Gareth's issues and now this i do hope this isnt going to be a problematic head.

Thanks for the detailed walk through Fran. While im up for giving the holes a go i think i would probably take it to the gallery and get them to do both if it needed a new nut as well. Ill keep looking.

I found I have 3 powerleads, all with slightly different ends. One is very loose in the socket but the other two seem to fit pretty tightly and while the whole assembly will move a little if I wiggle the lead there is no movement in the socktet at all. For good measure I tested my ashdown mag and that is a lot looser but still tight in the socket. Garreth, how is the other amp?

I have a Gigskinz 2 U rack bag and im very happy with it. I do like the small mixer bag but was disappointed with the small pockets. While i donhave a lot of gear to put in them i know im not goingt to get my leads and radio system in those small pockets. The laptop bag will hold everything, yet is smaller. I am a bit worried about having a laptop bag with DELL on it hanging around though, i feel it might get nicked quicker.

Being the paranoid sort ive just gone in to work to test mine. There does seem to be some movement but i couldn't get it to cut out. One other thing im not too happy about is ive just found a Dell Laptop bag at work that fits better than the Gigskinz bag i just got. Bugger :-)

[quote name='dmccombe7' post='1210285' date='Apr 24 2011, 07:53 PM']Now that you've highlighted this issue i went back and tried mine again. The socket is solid but moving the lead up or down breaks the connection on mine. Will try another mains cable see if it helps. Bit poor quality for an amp of this calibre. I'm an Instrument Engineer and use these plugs all the time and I've only ever came across this problem with bass amps or equipment ? Weird. !!!! Dave[/quote] This isn't good. Have you tried the lead that comes with the amp? I'm wondering if it's slightly different.

Good luck with getting this sorted quickly, im sure Darren will pull out all the stops. Does anyone here use a Genz Benz bag for this head? I got the Gigskinz small mixer bag (yes, it does have a smell) but i feel the pockets aren't going to hold all my leads and radio system. The pocket on the GB bag looks bigger.