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[quote name='longtimefred' post='972851' date='Sep 30 2010, 03:57 PM']I like the sound of the hs! Never had a go of one of them. Will have a look into it. What's the going rate for a second hand one?[/quote] Unfortunately they are quite rare I found, and there tends to be more HH models. The HS allows single coil at bridge, like a normal Ray 5, you lose the series option (which is now different anyway on 2008 onwards single Rays) and you gain the S at the neck and a load of other great positions. I was actually impressed by how different each one is. They are expensive to buy new, but I didnt pay the price below which seems to be the norm and I also got the upgraded Tort guard. Ill get pics up in the Gear Porn soon...it is a beautiful white. [url="http://www.basscentre.com/5-string-bass-guitars/musicman-stingray-v-hs.html"]http://www.basscentre.com/5-string-bass-gu...ngray-v-hs.html[/url] Personally, I think the HS is best multi pickup setup with a Ray.

[quote name='Delberthot' post='972834' date='Sep 30 2010, 03:43 PM']how about selling it and getting a Stingray HH or HS?[/quote] +1 I should have suggested that! The S gives you some AMAZING P bass tones/J neck pup tones. Combine it with other pups and BOOM!

If you want more bite and treble, id opt for a different BF cab or just a different cab all together. Or, add to the cab you have, as suggested on his page the Midget?! I dont care about speaking mixing but apprently you shouldnt usually do it. So maybe not!

I owned a 2001/2 ish American Fender Precision Deluxe. At the same time I had a Ray or two. That humbucker CANNOT get anyhwere near the EBMM tone. Not one bit. In fact, seeing a P bass with more than just the normal controls and pickups just didnt work. Far too much going on and the pre-amp...well... Im in the camp of P bass = split coil, vol, tone, passive. Thats it. My Deluxe was far too heavy, and I really didnt use it. I personally wouldnt change....but thats IMO. I love Stringray 5s.

Ive never been keen on the dirt the MXR creates. It somehow doesnt have that gutsy unique tone the BDDI offers.

Put it this way, I had a 400W SMXGP12, and even with 1 8 ohm cabinet, it never went over half on the volume control. Usually under that. VERY loud amps.

Dont get me wrong, I HATE it when youve just bought a new amp and a new one literally is on the shelves the next day. But, I imagine this one will take at least a year to get out and about if its in the proto stage.

All of these reasons on positions is what made me want to go for a 5 string. I think being able to swap comofortably between 4 and 5 strings is perfect. Its finding the 5 that works for you thats the hard part. I try to give equal attention to both at the moment, and practice more at home with the 5 as I now want more 5 string basses.

[quote name='dave_bass5' post='972516' date='Sep 30 2010, 11:37 AM']Yes but Cheap GAS. Im now cured of my P GAS for at least this weekend. Hopefully im now sorted as far as tone goes and not enough funds to get the P now. And thats a good thing. Shame i got the Sadowsky first as ive been trying to find a use for that and i cant. Its just too subtle.[/quote] TBH, im shocked it hasnt/didnt sell quicker. SOO many people like those pedals, im really shocked.

Wow those guys are hot with new products, im impressed.

Haha, cruel GAS!

I wouldnt worry much about the mid control. Your amp can deal with that if necessary. That Schroe cab throws out the mids anyway so youll be fine. The BDDI is, I do believe, their biggest selling bass product because it not only gets the job done, its small and fairly well priced. If I had the choice between BDDI and Para id go BDDI, because the inherent tone of the BDDI is that quite compressed slight mid suck 'SVT being pushed' tone. Turn the gain up and its very tube like....even just a hair is nice. Ive used mine through countless PAs without a backline because of space when touring and because the less we took, the less problems we would run into.

This is getting to be a hard decision! Part of me wants to dare try the Bongo...and even not go for the Big Al...but the Big Al is so different, and has the passive tone control, active/passive swtich and all that jazz!

[quote name='dood' post='972246' date='Sep 30 2010, 12:00 AM']Exactly! - The LM3 is a different beast to the F1 and F500 - and as Danny says, it's a case of what you are needing or wanting to hear that will help sway the arguement - or indeed (not that there is much between them lol) size and weight! The LM3 is said to be thicker and warmer in tone Vs the F1/500. The F series is brighter with an upper mid accentuation (if thats the right word) and a tightness that makes it sound more 'forward'. The bottom on both is deep and enveloping. The F1 and F500 are not cold or sterile sounding. Nor are they 'digital' lol lol. The LM3 isn't woolly. Ok. Confused? heh![/quote] Perfect description. I tried both, and in the end sent the F500 back as for 'me' the LM3 wins for sheer simplicity and warmth.

I cant read music, mainly because I was too busy studying for A-Levels/Degree at the time, and now my legal career takes up too much time anyway. I think that IS a disadvantage, but NOT very often. Not in the world of rock/pop/punk/metal/some blues/some funk etc. I have actually seen a few non-bassist musicians (one was a fantastic saxophone player) who were part of various jazz outfits, and they didnt know ANY theory. How did they get away with it? Feel and talent....raw talent and the fact they knew what to play, and didnt need to stick to any rules. Mavericks! Id much rather listen and learn rather than read it, but I agree one day I need to learn to read music. It cant be that hard. I somehow managed to get an A in GCSE music by writing a punk song, a ska song, and getting friends to play drums and sing over the top. I dont know how I managed to get through the theory part of the exam.

I want a Bongo 5 HH as well!!!

[quote name='Lozz196' post='971479' date='Sep 29 2010, 10:26 AM']I fell slightly cheated [/quote] I think if they sound great, I wouldnt worry. They are very sneaky on their specs. Big boo to Fender thought.

15s have moved on, without a doubt. Have you seen the Schroeder 15+? That is TINY and apparently, not that ive heard it, sound great for its size/weight.

Classic: Middle Pickup: Vintage Precision Bass® Split Single-Coil Pickup Roadworn: Middle Pickup: Vintage Precision Bass® Split Single-Coil Pickup American Standard: Middle Pickup: American Standard Precision Bass® Alnico V Split Single-Coil Pickup

[quote name='Lozz196' post='971358' date='Sep 29 2010, 07:46 AM']That is a surprise, as on a different thread on here, there was an e-mail from a guy from Fender stating they were the US Pickups.[/quote] Thats what I thought. I showed the guys the thread in the email I sent, and they said there had been a mistake. God knows how they made that mistake, but there we go! I even double checked with the USA Fender rep, and yet again he said 'they are MIM'. Dont let that detract anyone from buying one, because the Classic prices arent bad. However, I would have thought they would have stuck USA pups in the Roadworn.

Didnt even see this thread! Well done chaps, nice work.

What volume do you need? Seriously, it took me a while to dare take the plunge, but once the usual talkbass experts gig their hands on them, and gave very positive reviews, I took the plunge. Lightest ceramic cabinets I've used, punchy, smooth, no ganky fake treble, and good form factor.