Woodinblack

Somehow don't think he is putting the effort in:

Quite tempted to get one as a useful one off pedal. But that might because my multifx is away at the moment still

They are one of those groups that seem quite pushed and I don't quite gel with but give credit that least they are doing something different, so I swing between liking them and hating them. I guess, I like their sound but none of their songs have really grabbed me. When that started I thought 'oh god it is another of those emotionless slowed down songs that there are a lot of', but although it seemed a bit slow her voice actually really did honour the original pretty well, so I was more impressed than I was expecting.

Thomman have them at £190 - there are a few cheaper ones too.

The Evox I got before for under £500, now there isn't anything south of £700. I saw about the 310s - sounds like quite a good deal and would probably be good as vocals, but would it be ok with me putting my bass through it and the rest of the band, or would I just end up with more things to carry around?

That does seem like an interesting thing. Is there anything anywhere that says what the price is?

Yep, and then I have a whole load more clutter to deal with in already compromised space and more time setting up when it is already too long. I have just downsized to a smaller pedalboard to reduce space, so there isn't actually that much room. It doesn't really matter as I have no need for one at the moment, but it was fun. If it was smaller and fitted it would have stayed there and I would have worked it into my set, but I didn't have that much real estate next to things I actually needed, so it went. If I really needed it obviously I would get it, but when it is a want rather than a need, anything can sway the decision.

It wouldn't fit in the budget, but selling the TS212s and if I wasn't bothering with an amp it would be manageable. And these things seem to keep their value (in fact my other one is probably worth more than I paid for it now).

it does, one that won't fit on my current pedalboard!

He does have one now, which improved his voice from the behringer he had. But he as also tried with my mic, the tc helicon one. I was fiddling last night with a multitrack after remembering I had a few and noticed that he needed a boost in the same area (1.5k) that i needed a cut on mine. I am sure I went to your house once to pick up speaker componants? I have been looking and I am thinking that I might get a second Evox 8, because if I got the evox j8mix, I wouldn't need to take my mixer to practice, and I could also put the bass into it meaning I wouldn't need an amp or my speaker. So I could save myself lugging stuff around. Maybe also that way go ampless at gigs too, in which case would save even more hassle.

I must admit that one gets me too - buying it and then having to pay extra for a case

Closest I could get

He was making popcorn while the rickenbackers were in the trenches singing "Die gute kamerad'!

most certainly not, finest popcorn for the longest pointless arguments!

I would say the feeling of watching the guitarist trying to get in their locked car probably would beat it for me

Thanks - quite a bit to think about. The speakers are TS212s, had them for a long time, they are fundamentally ok but a bit boxy. Nowhere near as bright as the RCF, although I would be surprised if they would be. The sax stuff is interesting. He has a wireless transmitter bolted to the side of the sax, with a little gooseneck thing that points into the bell - so it is interesting from your video that that isn't where it should be. The transmitter is a senheiser, but it isn't good although not anything to do with the feedback (it clicks a lot). The mic is a different shure, but at one point he had the same as the drummer and they have swapped a bit, he also used my TC Helicon mic, which sounds fine with me and is unclear. I guess the problem is just him, I have listened to the sound of a multitrack and he just sounds a bit like that. His mic technique is fine when he isn't trying to hold the mic like a rapper, He is a bit further back than me with teh mic, but not as far as the drummer (another issue with him and the cymbals coming through). The PA started off flat with bits being taken out for feedback control - it used to be parametric, but now on the main out I used the graphic and just knocked out any bits that were feeding back. I think that is probably the main issue, and I was going to get a pink noise generator to check what the response is.

He is close enough, just a bit muffled. Could be the feedback caused by the alto, although at practices I just use the evo and can get feedback there. To be fair most of the time at practices it is the sax, although often at the gigs it can be.

I haven't, although considering I have one, it is not a bad shout!

FoH - I use in-ears, we don't have any monitors. Me and the drummer have in ears, the singer is out the front and doesn't complain. The guitarist complains about this, but I don't see his hand going in his pocket, I have spare monitor channels! Its normally the audience saying the vocals are too quiet. There is possibly also an issue the singer is not very clear, as the drummer when he sings is fairly clear, but we can't change him (we have changed his Mic)

Orville Redenbacher caramel popcorn. Why don't they sell that locally any more. Oh I remember, I changed countries! Still, they are dead to me now!

OK, I need to do something as it gets issues. I started off with two alto 212s and a behringer 12 sub (only oudoors the last bit) years ago, and we gigged with that a lot. Originally just vocals / sax and bass drum outside went through, and some keys, But the were always complaints about the lack of volume of the singer. I managed to get a RCF Evox 8, so now we gig with one of those and one of the 212s. I have taken the sub to some outdoor gigs, and it does help with the drum kit. The clarity of the vocals has improved, and now we put a bit of guitar through it too but still complaints about the volume of the vocals and sax, but even though there is more volume I can put up, it starts getting feedback after a while, especially from the sax (wireless mic inside the sax bell). All of this comes from an X18. I must admit I should ring out the system with pink noise and a proper microphone but I haven't. All the PA stuff is bought by me and carried to gigs by me. So I would like to do something to improve it, so if you were in this situation and you had £500 as a max to spend, but not much other space to store and not much incentive to carry, what would you do? Yes, I am aware that better stuff exists beyond £500, but that is completely irrelevant! In an ideal world I would get another evox8, but they have gone up a lot.

I am sure there are some hondo owners who would swap. Although I do understand that, I had an ibanez 4001 copy, bolt on with stereo out back in the early 80s and I really liked that bass. It got nicked. When I did play my first real ric, I was a bit disappointed with it.

If you hate your bass, why do you still have it?

Mine neither. But I do like the ABM600 - just not the compressor.

Why did the machine insist? My music iPad (the one I gig with) doesn't get updates as it has everything it needs on it and it works fine. It will work like that until it eventually dies. My 1994 macbook 160 still works, although it has to be said, the battery life isn't great!