Woodinblack

But to get to live performance you have to had wanted to learn in the first place. I think the oportunities are reducing for that - and the locations. And however elvis was with a crowd, his last performance was 49 years ago, so for most people alive, he was just some historical figure.

How many have you been to recently? Me, not so many. Is there? There are about 10 cover bands in the local area this weekend, but I don't see any orchestras. No-one cared about the tune as long as it was Elvis playing it, it could have been anything. How did Elvis get a start, what happens if he never did? Or are you saying that ultimately we will just end up with live mime acts, or like the abba projection thing? Or actually I suppose, like elvis, the only people who will be able to perform are the pretty ones (similar to the national level but local). If there is no skill required to do it, then aesthetics will be the only thing that matters. Thats me out then!

Will it? If music is something done by AI there may just be less interest in it. Certainly there is less interest in younger generations than older generations. With pubs closing down and event spaces reducing, I can't see that there is much time left for people playing live. I have the advantage of being old so I don't really have to worry about it, but you know, people only started going to see groups from the 50s on, everything has a time and maybe that is over. What is the actual point learning an instrument if you are never going to be as good as a machine?

Thats how it seems to me. There isn't too much in it, and my favourite album changes depending on when I am asked, but it never goes past Hold Your Fire

I saw them on animal magnetism and blackout. Gigs were so cheap back then. Moving? I am sure she has to move to reach all the drums! I am sure she is going to be fine and don't really get the 'it isn't rush without Neil' - i mean it was rush before he was in it, so it can be rush afterwards. That is why I wouldn't go. I am sure it would be expensive etc, but all those things are now, especially when there are only 4 in the uk, so sound is going to be bad because it is in the O2, and geddy hasn't been able to sing rush songs for a very long time, so hardly seems worth it. They were always my favourite group for most of my life, so I will leave those memories intact!

Hmm.. tricky one - not really got much new that is interesting. Obviousy I have my £62 jazz, and a polyshifter XS1.. I guess I will have to bring some older stuff unless (perish the thought) I buy anything new

Well, thats not surprising, the crowd spend 40 years yelling freebird to every band that plays and then someone actually plays it!

A piano

See, anyone coming to this thread now means that comment doesn't make sense

Yeh, I looked on line but the only demos are people spending time adding reverb or doing robot voices, neither of which are things I need to use ever!

interesting to hear views on what it sounds like!

Yeh, listened to the demos, I can see it would work for some singers with no backing vocals, but for me that wouldn't work at all. I am a backing singer and as such I don't do a 3rd or 5th etc of what the singer is doing, I do a contrasting line so for instance I can be going up when he is going down, or just on one note etc, so if I had a harmoniser on that it would enforce the backing over the primary vocals and not work well. I can see as one of those singer song writer acoustic acts or country or a solo singer in a group it would be good. Like all of these things, it really is group dependant I would add, the up down in the H1 demo is exactly the same as the VoiceLive 2, and sounds the same as the harmony mode, just quite a bit cheaper, i have one but just don't use it for the above reasons, and pedalboard space.

Slightly smaller monitor?

The critical mass I only use flat out - i use it for the 'hey teacher leave them kids alone' bit of brick in the wall. I think it sounds horrible in in ears where you can hear it perfectly, but in the PA into an audience, it sounds great. Like you, I don't like pitch correction and I don't use it, I do the BVs but also do the high bits of some songs (beatles songs etc) where I fade in and the singer fades out.

I used the critical mass with the sax and it sounded great

Not sure there is much to fail, and if it did, it would only move round so you couldn't adjust it, in which case you could tune it back up,. Anyway, I contacted all the people who had the ric tuners and they didn't have them, so I contacted hipshot who told me that as long as I didn't mind putting a screwhole in my ric (which I don't), the 3/8 tuner with a 12mm long bush is a perfect fit.

I would point out that both of my Evox 8s are second hand, so between them they were less than 1k. The XR18 is now cheap as anything.

You didn't, I was just saying. ok, well the rule is to only ask for valuations in the wozzit worth forum, which you can only see if you are a member, so if you want to post it there, thats fine, just not here.

Except part of that conversation was someone mentioning to them the rules of off marketplace selling, including showing the actual rules, so I think it was clear.

Hidden the posts that are based on pricing a specific bass, because thats against the rules, as mentioned. If you need help with a specific valuation, please use the wozzit worth forum.

You can - only you know if it would work for you, if you don't have a loud drummer, maybe you can - we used to practice with just the one and it was loud enough, but obviously a large amount of people absorb sound quite a bit!

Absolutely, I never managed to keep any bass that had the BH or similar OEM barts in.

Indeed - I love the RCF Evox 8s that I have, just two boxes, no extra poles or anything, turn up and plonk them down, connect them up to the mixer, or if you got a JMix8, which is basic but functional, one to the other, plug the power in, jobs done, no poles etc. Plenty loud for a pub or basic outdoor stuff (including the bass and bass drum going through them). If you haven't got the one with the mixer in, get a basic digital mixer which are really cheap now, a XR18 (or even smaller), or even a flow 8. But if there are 6 of you and some instruments, something like an XR18 would give you a microphone each, all the instrument, then speakers to out, and 6 outputs to IEMs, or monitors, or the cheap P-16 personal IEM things (which are fantastic) for an individual mix. That is what I have done a few hundred gigs on and no problems (actually the evoxs, probably still under 100 gigs, but the mixer and everyhing way over).

Might help with confidence

I only use a gang harmoniser for a few things, but I would say I never have thought a single BV sounded wrong or weak. Its a lot better than just a normal solo singer.