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I think a lot of it is down to personal taste and also matching kit. I am always really careful to make sure there is synergy between amp cab and bass, some combinations work others don't!

[quote name='Musicman20' timestamp='1380549443' post='2226881'] Personally, I'd opt for a Berg CN212. [/quote] +1 awesome piece of kit, not cheap but hey ho!

[quote name='martthebass' timestamp='1380380258' post='2224528'] Thanks for the great suggestions guys. I'd love to go down the midget route but don't have the space (or the cash) for it, plus I suspect it would get left at home other than for the 'big rooms'. I've thought about selling on the BF and getting a BFC with the HF unit but I'm not sure how much hat would help (plus trying to find someone willing to sell/trade is highly improbable). Looks like the Gramma pad first off then! [/quote] CN212 can't go wrong one cab solution, full bottom end sweet top and punchy through the mids! A classic

[quote name='martthebass' timestamp='1380322226' post='2223952'] Hi Chris, again it's room dependent. If the room is full of carpet and (dare I say it) flock wallpaper it struggles a bit. On a proper stage with shiney floors absolutely no problem. [/quote] I prefer large carpeted rooms with my rig and never struggle for any frequencies. My little mark 800 is run completely flat with vpf and vle turned off, tone controls on the Bass set flat. Are the floors that you are playing on hollow? If so a gramma pad will certainly help if you don't already have one.

Nordy they are ALL amazing, no dead spots, nice weight, gorgeous neck profiles. Only negative is the price!

Markbass are great, really honest sounding heads IMHO maybe a new cab would be a consideration instead?

Cn212 all the way, feather light and TONE from heaven

What a shame, great products, great company, great customer service, have dealt with both Jeff and Aged Horse and have nothing but good things to say about them. Who will Fender destroy next, taking bets.....,,,,

Great little head but does not have the same depth of tone as the 9.0 or any of the later.2 shuttles. Personally I would get a 6.2, they are on special offer at the moment.....

Cn cabs are brighter in the upper mids and less full in the low mids than the hd cabs so they don't hit quite as hard but do stand out a little more in a band mix. My Hd210 is amazing for the size, lots more volume than the 112, I would love to go back the Ae 212 personally although not complaining about what I have!

[quote name='Matt42uk' timestamp='1377113849' post='2183612'] Ah fair enough. But in terms of quality of sound? [/quote] Vanderkley sound very clean and balanced, build is among the best out there.

Stick with the Markbass, very nice clean to growly usable bass tones that can sound great set flat with many different basses and cabs. Rh has great feature set but looses out on the high end due to its permanent high pass filter.

Just purchased a Nordy off Phil, what a great guy. The whole experience was really positive, top notch customer service and happy to just chat gear for a little while. Thanks Phil we will do business again!

Markbass heads are pretty honest, flattest sounding quality cabs that I have heard are made by Vanderkley.

[quote name='tonyf' timestamp='1369217310' post='2086334'] It sounds fantastic with the Streamliner. When I tried out the HD212 a while ago at Bass Direct, I much preferred the detail and clarity of Shuttle although the warmth and roundness of the Streamliner was pretty fab too. Apparently Mark reckons that the CN is a little more detailed on the top end and this really helps open up the Streamliner. Makes sense. I love the organic roundness and warmth of the Streamliner, the bit of girth when you dig in makes it feel really dynamic. The clarity of the Berg is brilliant for picking out this detail in the tone and I suddenly realised on Sunday night that there's nowhere to hide now [/quote] Nice looking cab, the hd has more low mid girth which is too much of a good thing with the streamliner. I think the shuttle might sound a bit too bright and thin with the CN 212 for my liking, streamliner should be a really great match with the lows dialled back a touch.

[quote name='jrturner77' timestamp='1369047596' post='2084150'] Just picked up a LM 800, GREAT amp. So much punch and power. Thought I could never cheat on my Ampeg but think a sale may be coming up. [/quote] I have the Lm800 as well, I absolutely love it!

Great little amp with volume that defies its size. The Di has been sorted now but is post eq with no option to select pre eq. Love the grit and snarl, bit of a one trick pony but does its trick brilliantly! The ability to drive an 8 ohm cab at full wattage is great as well. I have no personal experience of the cabs, have been told they are ok but not really in the same league as Bergs, Vanderkleys, Baers etc. I found customer service at Orange to be exceptional by the way!

Really dig his Bro Richard as well

[quote name='skychaserhigh' timestamp='1368647056' post='2079812'] Check out the Vanderkley cabs too.Superb quality and tone. [/quote] Very nice cabs.

[quote name='alexclaber' timestamp='1368622480' post='2079305'] Or something you haven't seen yet! And like you say, tone is down to personal preference - one of our earliest Big Baby T customers had a fault with his cabs and they had to come back for repair. He said: "[font=arial, sans-serif][size=3]Been having nightmares about having to use the [/size][/font][font=arial, sans-serif][size=3]Bergantino[/size][/font][font=arial, sans-serif][size=3]'s , that must [/size][/font][font=arial, sans-serif][size=3]surely say something for your creations !" [/size][/font] [/quote] Alex, Please don't get defensive, I have just not found anything to date that I like better than Bergs. My gigs range from 200 -2000 people and are really diverse musically, Jims cabs work for me in all situations. If your new cab is the biz who knows I may be tempted.....

[quote name='wateroftyne' timestamp='1368617284' post='2079174'] Yes. Yes, they could. [/quote] Not for tone, fit, and finish.... Maybe for volume. There are 12's already on the market that are louder such as the ML112, but it sounds nothing like the Berg. All down to personal preference

[quote name='molan' timestamp='1368575236' post='2078854'] In general terms I think the Berg cabs are in a different league from the other brands you've mentioned in terms of build quality, fit & finish etc. I haven't heard the CN212 yet but my local dealer will have them later this week so I'll be able to hear it first hand then [/quote] +1, Bergs are sublime. The CN is a little less fat in the low mids compared to the HD, it is also a little brighter in the high mids. Having owned the HD212 I can honestly say that it it the best cab that I have ever used. Weight was the only reason I let it go. The Genz is getting some great feedback on Talkbass and will save you some cash ! Mark does have the CN cabs so it is worth a trip to Warwick. Ken Jung has some clips on YouTube that might be helpful, he is also happy to discuss via pm on Talkbass.