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[quote name='Musicman20' timestamp='1382025961' post='2246870'] That is odd. I've only ever heard that the AE cabs are quite tightly voiced in terms of bass. [/quote] The 10 loaded cabs are tight, the AE212 is a different beast altogether, I have one paired with a little mark 800 and the low end is huge even sat on a gramma pad, all relative though! If Molan ever wants to loose the AE210 I might even be able to find a good home for it.....

[quote name='molan' timestamp='1381957937' post='2246178'] The 112H cab is brand new so it'll be he latest version. I've been running the basic combo against the AE210 today and it's really interesting to compare them. The Berg definitely goes deeper and he combo sounds a little boxy. However as you start boosting the volume the AE, to my ears, starts getting a bit boomy whilst the 112 combo starts really snarling and coming to life. For the rock band I'm in it sounds great with a fairly bright and aggressive sounding Sei bass [/quote] Glad you are diggin it, am intrigued by the ae210 sounding boomy, that is not a description that I have ever heard about that cab! I guess on a wooden floor or powered by a streamliner .....

[quote name='molan' timestamp='1381935130' post='2245724'] I was thinking of adding a 121H cab for gigging and just using the combo on its own for rehearsing [/quote] Try an a/b with your AE210 and you will hear what I am talking about, that is one amazing little cab, especially if it is v2

[quote name='molan' timestamp='1381932213' post='2245665'] I've been looking at an original combo but haven't been able to find much info about what the changes were when the LMII came out. The one I've seen is a good price but I don't know if the II is worth the extra cost. [/quote] Good question, not sure there would be enough of an improvement to justify a large cost difference, having said that it would be newer, if you really want a Markbass combo the cmd121h might be worth a look, has a horn instead of piezo. Much much better

I am fairly sure that from ii to iii the differences are the Di and a better limiter, particularly in 8 ohm the ii does compress quite harshly assuming that the cmd has the same electronics as the cmd combo. I used to run that combo until I compared it to a berg single 12, the combo went, most people reckon the tweeter is the weak link. A cn112 with an lmiii would wipe the floor with it

[quote name='JapanAxe' timestamp='1381859739' post='2244677'] Excellent review, covers all the things you need to know. Part of me is GASing to upgrade to 3rd gen BF but tbh I am pretty happy with my existing BF rig. Can I suggest that the fanboys and haters start their slanging on a separate thread? [/quote] I really want a gen 3 cab they must be the best cabs ever, and Alex is just the most amazing cab designer, I hope to meet him some day what an honour that would be! All other cab manufacturers should stop cab production and there should only be Barefaced cabs available for purchase, this should be enforced as a new law outlawing other inferior cabs. Anyone found using other cabs should be hung drawn and quartered, they are useless to society anyway as they can obviously not hear properly;). No one was biting so I thought I would add some humour! On a serious note, really glad that you are happy with your new rig, looks great on stage and must have been real easy to carry.

Hey Richard sorry to hear of your handle woes

Hey Gaf, let me know when those AE210's are too much for you, I will be happy to relieve you of them

[quote name='SpaceChick' timestamp='1381660707' post='2241840'] Having just acquired a Little Mark 800 I can say I am delighted. It's light as a feather and has enough power to knock pictures off walls!! It's a digital amp, so if a valve amp is your thing it won't be for you. [/quote] Brutal power love mine!

[quote name='discreet' timestamp='1381618454' post='2241575'] Oh, I don't know. Any old port in a storm, I say. [/quote] The miss use of ports in the Brighton are is well publicised!

The well known bass shop owner does have very good ears and knows what works and what doesn't, the shop is expressing the same point of view as many others, that just does not fit with what bf fans want to hear. Incidentally there are lots of manufacturers who approach that shop wanting their kit to be stocked, some get a yes, others ....... I have never received anything other than objective advice when I have shopped there, sometimes a little to bluntly but hey ho

Just saw an article called "the mysteries of ports" on the bf website, it is essential that you use the correct port!

Maybe the photos are poor quality for a reason...

[quote name='JTUK' timestamp='1381568543' post='2240673'] yep... have to agree. Stage sound is massively important to me. [/quote] Stage sound is hugely important, IEM's are great for cleaning it up cabs might even become a thing of the past in the future, then we can all have GAS over Ultimate Ears vs Senheiser etc

[quote name='Legion' timestamp='1381491380' post='2239760'] I went from a pair of Berg 12's to a Big baby and I have to say I like both. There is certainly a difference in sound though, the Bergs added significant "colour" in comparison to the BF. You must mean a different colour of course It was a very nice sounding colour though. [/quote]

See one, hear one, see through the hype, something else will be in favour soon... Stick with what you have and spend your money on lessons or some pt sessions

[quote name='leroydiamond' timestamp='1381185122' post='2235665'] that's the trick allright. A task that is difficult to accomplish, particularly if like me you are starved of shops selling the latest pieces of kit. It's then easy to get sucked in by the online hype. Even if you do find your dream set up in some store or other, it can often fall down in a live performance situation. [/quote] +1 there have been several pieces of kit that I have tried which have been really hyped on forums and I have then been really disappointed with when demo'd, conversely my little mark 800 has zero hype and on Talkbass even has some criticism yet I absolutely love it! I have found that trying in a shop certainly helps although there is no substitute for playing a rig live to know how it works. I bought a Berg Ae212 a couple of years ago based on reviews, it sounded great on its own but in a band mix really struggled to stand out, lesson learned! I now look for a rig that on its own sounds slightly too forward in the upper mids/treble, in a live setting I find this gives me great definition and clarity, at home I just eq as nesc

[quote name='leroydiamond' timestamp='1381095473' post='2234389'] Wonder will the Barefaced big twin dislodge the CN212 from its perch? [/quote] Not sure it really has a perch! As much as I think it is a great sounding cab with minimal weight I do actually prefer the some what heavier HD series. There have already been several CN212's for sale on Talkbass and one on Basschat so they are clearly not for everyone. There are lots of great cabs out there, the trick is finding the one that pairs with well with your kit and delivers the tone that's in your head.

[quote name='Conan' timestamp='1380697619' post='2228940'] A Bear that's huge and growly? [/quote]