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Really dig his Bro Richard as well

[quote name='skychaserhigh' timestamp='1368647056' post='2079812'] Check out the Vanderkley cabs too.Superb quality and tone. [/quote] Very nice cabs.

[quote name='alexclaber' timestamp='1368622480' post='2079305'] Or something you haven't seen yet! And like you say, tone is down to personal preference - one of our earliest Big Baby T customers had a fault with his cabs and they had to come back for repair. He said: "[font=arial, sans-serif][size=3]Been having nightmares about having to use the [/size][/font][font=arial, sans-serif][size=3]Bergantino[/size][/font][font=arial, sans-serif][size=3]'s , that must [/size][/font][font=arial, sans-serif][size=3]surely say something for your creations !" [/size][/font] [/quote] Alex, Please don't get defensive, I have just not found anything to date that I like better than Bergs. My gigs range from 200 -2000 people and are really diverse musically, Jims cabs work for me in all situations. If your new cab is the biz who knows I may be tempted.....

[quote name='wateroftyne' timestamp='1368617284' post='2079174'] Yes. Yes, they could. [/quote] Not for tone, fit, and finish.... Maybe for volume. There are 12's already on the market that are louder such as the ML112, but it sounds nothing like the Berg. All down to personal preference

[quote name='molan' timestamp='1368575236' post='2078854'] In general terms I think the Berg cabs are in a different league from the other brands you've mentioned in terms of build quality, fit & finish etc. I haven't heard the CN212 yet but my local dealer will have them later this week so I'll be able to hear it first hand then [/quote] +1, Bergs are sublime. The CN is a little less fat in the low mids compared to the HD, it is also a little brighter in the high mids. Having owned the HD212 I can honestly say that it it the best cab that I have ever used. Weight was the only reason I let it go. The Genz is getting some great feedback on Talkbass and will save you some cash ! Mark does have the CN cabs so it is worth a trip to Warwick. Ken Jung has some clips on YouTube that might be helpful, he is also happy to discuss via pm on Talkbass.

Jims ceramic cabs are still his best works, the neo's are good but the ceramic cabs are things of aural beauty!

Now in stock at Bass Direct!

Just like collecting expensive gear! Are they not quite doing it for you?

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[quote name='skychaserhigh' timestamp='1366116556' post='2048475'] Given your location , wouldn't it be easier to just spend a day at Bass Direct ? You can try out a vast array of cabs , apart from Barefaced , and if you make a decision you could buy it and take it home with you. [/quote] +1 I dont think he would have them in there!

[quote name='Dave_the_bass' timestamp='1366063445' post='2048025'] Sorry, didn't see the questions. Music genre is rock/metal. It's a new band with all new material and the songs we're writing are kinda bang in the middle. Musically we're a three piece so I have a lot of sonic space to play with/fill in times of git solo. Head is a Shuttlemax 12.2. The sound through the HD210s at bass direct was fantastic when I bought it but not sure gow it'd be now I've my sound set up, barring minor eq tweeks for cab/ room. [/quote] The Bergs always sound amazing with that head which has huge eq possibilities. I would be tempted to kook at the HD212 as well, very deep, very loud and tone to die for-I know where there is a virtually new one in as new condition for sale at a good price The Baer would also work well for you with some low end dialled in, the upper mid aggression would work well for metal, the cab will also do overdrive nicely as well if required due to the Faital mid driver.

[quote name='chris_b' timestamp='1366061049' post='2047988'] What music are you playing and what amp will you be using with these cabs? It's a good list but I'd add: Bergantino HD112 cabs. Bergantino CN112 and CN212, out later this month. Baer ML112 and ML212 cabs. Aguilar DB112, DB210 and DB212 cabs. I've been playing mainly AE112 and occasionally AE210 cabs for the last 5 years so I'll be looking at the CN*** cabs with interest when Bassdirect get them in. [/quote] +1 all those cabs sound very different, need to match to your amp and style. Bergs, Vanderkleys, and Baers are beautifully made, fit and finish is sublime, and while very different, all sound stunning in their own way.

Traynor make great gear, have good customer service, and can be repaired fairly easily by a decent tech. I had a ycv40 guitar amp that the power supply failed on, repaired in a week with new valves, all good.

Shuttle 9.0 can be beefed up by turning the mid frequency selector all the way anti clockwise and then boosting the bass and mid level by a couple of clicks. Great amp but I prefer my little Mark 800, it goes deeper, is fatter and seems louder too! Rh450 will not keep up, the 750 will but has a built in grainyness to the sound that you cannot eq out, love it or hate it!

[quote name='martin8708' timestamp='1364851392' post='2031845'] Yup, as above , except I boost the low /mids a smidgen and bought a Vanderkley cab . I have tried about 5 ( poss 6 ) Markbass cabs , great if your in a Jazz or Acoustic type band , but if your in competition with rock guitarists , keep the head ( or poss try the Tube heads for stronger mids ) . Some people like the VPF and VLE filters , but they can suck the life out of your amp. I having been using Markbass for years , so I am a convert to the brand , but Mark at Bassdirect opened my eyes and ears . Added note: trying gear out in shops is all very well , those Markbass cabs tend to sound fantastic when played on their own , but it is never the same in a band situation when everyone else is robbing you of your sound . [/quote] Vanderkley cabs great as well, a bit flatter response and brighter but equally good! When I played a Berg compared to my old Markbass cab it was night and day.

Turn the vpf and vle off, set eq to 12 o clock, set bass to flat, play for 20 mins then make small adjustments to suit when you are used to what you are hearing. if no better keep the head, sell the cabs, buy some Bergs!

For coffee shop gigs I wouldn't want to run any less than a mesa Bb750 and a Berg nv412, gotta makes those cups and saucers rattle dude!

[quote name='ebenezer' timestamp='1364822802' post='2031242'] [b]cheers for that folks,like the fact that lm800 isn't made in china! tried lm3,that[/b] [b]sounded good but want more headroom.....will tone be similar?to lm800[/b] [/quote] It is quicker than the lmiii but still retains a lot of the warmth, with ridiculous headroom. Still no mute! I am in Leicester if you want to have a go on mine.