toneknob

I once got an email from the bandleader, having spoken to him and emailed previously, and having agreed audition date and material, "we've chosen someone else, he's ok but I'm unhappy we won't get to audition you. I think your previous experience may have intimidated one or two of the band."

Hi, My band Velcro Pelmet will be doing our selection of originals and standards from the genre on Saturday March 25th at The Union Jack in Southwark, not far from Southwark tube and handy for both London Bridge and Waterloo. You'll find the venue at 225 Union St, London SE1 0LR. Here's the facebook event page: https://www.facebook.com/events/385924381794438/ and click to https://www.facebook.com/VelcroPelmet/ and you can sign up and see past setlists. You can what we sound like at https://velcropelmet.com/music but watch out for the autoplay! Be there in time for an 80pm kick-off.

[quote name='Skinnyman' timestamp='1489969917' post='3261211'] What I find odd is that no-one has commented on Lee Pomeroy's basses....unless it's covered in a topic all it's own, in which case, forgive me for mentioning it here.... [/quote] ... and a 5-string Stingray for one of the "new" songs. Full setlist here, looks unchanged for most of the tour: http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/anderson-rabin-and-wakeman/2017/eventim-apollo-london-england-4bf9132a.html - apprently Starship Trooper was in there earlier on as well (ie USA dates I think) Great to hear the classic material, I could have done with one less 80s song though, for example Changes, Rhythm Of Love, Lift Me Up - from Union for heavens sake! Worst "Yes" album ever. Agree that no Jon = no Yes. And "album playthrough" gigs like Actual Yes are currently doing are the worst.

Decide on the band name before doing any recruitment.

High: S2S, Heroes, Low, Lodger, Stage, Scary Monsters. Low: his version of Alabama Song Nick:

Greetings from another SW London basschatter!

Time-keeping is everyone's responsibility, not just the drummer's. Get an electronic metronome for rehearsals, and plug in to the PA via a volume pedal. Keep it loud to start with, turn down as the band gets better at staying in time.

[quote name='NickD' timestamp='1489136299' post='3254570'] Bugger. If the stalls have gone I'm out! [/quote] I got one no trouble. Hopefully it wasn't the last one

[quote name='BassApprentice' timestamp='1489136094' post='3254564'] Erm...Tickets aren't on sale for Glasgow yet... I thought it was 10am but website looks to say 12. Will be online at both times [/quote] Also Glasgow O2 Priority: https://tickets.o2priority.co.uk/events/vulfpeck/4437

[quote name='NickD' timestamp='1489135002' post='3254551'] Tickets on sale today. Looks like from midday for Shepherds Bush, not sure for the other venues. [/quote] Thanks for the heads-up! Turns out Shepherds Bush has been on sale through O2 Priority since Wednesday, just grabbed myself one.

It's tonight! Come and say hello if you're there.

Yep, agree - you should refer to the actual pitches you're playing rather than what chord it looks like.

...And here's a link to some live recordings: https://velcropelmet.com/music (careful, it autoplays)

Tony Levin (plus some other blokes) through the ages http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WeYqJxlSv-Y (curious fashion choices within as well)

[quote name='wambamalubop' timestamp='1488391718' post='3248588'] Lee Sklar's bassline on Stratus Deceptively simple but locking into that groove defeats me and might until for ever... You can scroll to 2:52 if drum solos are not your thing, though these are some of the most interesting and creative ones to my thinking. [url="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5aw2rM0w-pc"]https://www.youtube....h?v=5aw2rM0w-pc[/url] He seems like a lovely human being in this interview. [url="http://www.notreble.com/buzz/2013/03/07/stories-behind-the-songs-leland-sklar/"]http://www.notreble....s-leland-sklar/[/url] "[color=#000000][font=open-sans, arial, helvetica, sans-serif]As I recall, Billy was originally going to do it with Stanley Clarke...[/font][/color] [/quote] Thanks for the story, very interesting! My band does this song, but I try to get them to do it more like this version by Stanley Clarke & Friends. I guess it's a bit like Rhythm Stick, Hysteria - once you can do it, it's fine. I have no trouble with keeping up with the tempo (we inevitably do it fast) but it's always a welcome break to get to the outro. Having said that I suck at Rhythm Stick and Hysteria. [color=#808080][font=arial, sans-serif][size=1] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzJ_oPESMZE [size=3] [/size][/size][/font][/color]

[quote name='SpondonBassed' timestamp='1488114451' post='3245910'] [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDLrpG0DCqI[/media] [/quote] Hah. That brings to mind our singer's flute performance. Oh - where do I get a remote bubble blower?

The Cinema Show by Genesis. Start with solo acoustic 12-string guitar, tuned dDgGaDeGbbee (ie non-unison pairs on the middle two pairs, E and E pairs down a full step). Add bass pedals after a couple of minutes. Frantic triplet picking in the middle bit. Fade out, unplug, switch to double-neck Shergold. Instrumental in 7/8, switch to bass (finally) for the last few seconds.

Facebook event page at [url="https://www.facebook.com/events/174552683044024/"]https://www.facebook...74552683044024/[/url] btw.

[font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Hi jazz fans[/font] [font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]My band Velcro Pelmet ([/font][url="https://www.facebook.com/VelcroPelmet"]https://www.facebook.com/VelcroPelmet[/url][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]) are back in action on Wednesday March 8th at Off The Cuff in Herne Hill. It's a really cool venue, built into the arches of the above train line (so there are fewer neighbours to annoy I suppose). We play a mix of jazz fusion originals and reinterpreted versions of material originally by the likes of Miles Davis, Weather Report, Mike Stern, Herbie Hancock, Billy Cobham, the Jaco Pastorius big band, Pat Metheny and others - plus a few of our own. We'll be bringing some new material along for this gig.[/font] [font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]More details as and when but we'll be doing two sets, on stage at 9pm. [/font] [font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Tony[/font]

[quote name='scrumpymike' timestamp='1487270775' post='3238562'] Stop Making Sense is a classic. I remember seeing it at our local 'art-house' cinema (the Phoenix in Finchley Central) just after it was released and within 20 minutes everybody was up bopping in the aisles. Re the lovely Tina, I'd say she was just a bit highly strung - or maybe just high. [/quote] An American friend was round and leafing through my record collection, pulling out the occasional oddity or something he considered curious. I tried to be cool and say "yeah this was the first record I ever bought" re Stop Making Sense. "Oh, Talking Heads? yeah, nice. I was at the gig where they recorded that show"

[quote name='dmccombe7' timestamp='1487284230' post='3238724'] Think there's a few guys on here that might be into Genesis in a big way. Think maybe you and Toneknob fit that bill. I'm just a fan of a certain period around Seconds Out to Duke era. Claim to fame Mr Collins bought me lunch one day. [/quote] I had a lunch with Steve Hackett once! It's one o'clock, etc. I was a huge fan, not so much now - just a massive anorak. Much prefer Steve Hackett's and Peter Gabriel's respective solo material these days.

[quote name='dmccombe7' timestamp='1487242166' post='3238264'] Mike wasn't using a Shergold 8 at that time. He used a Hagstrom at that point but think Shergold were looking at building him a proper 8 string rather than like mine which has a shorter scale length. I guess he had more influence than me and i'm not sure wh that is. Think he used 8 on Firth on Seconds out and pretty sure on one of the tracks from Then There Were Three. Before that i couldn't be sure without going over the old albums again. [/quote] Firth of Fifth is a bass/12-string song for Mike in concert, pretty sure he didn't change guitars during the song. (We're scraping the surface of why I'm no longer in tribute bands now, by the way)

[quote name='dmccombe7' timestamp='1487242166' post='3238264'] Mike wasn't using a Shergold 8 at that time. He used a Hagstrom at that point but think Shergold were looking at building him a proper 8 string rather than like mine which has a shorter scale length. I guess he had more influence than me and i'm not sure wh that is. Think he used 8 on Firth on Seconds out and pretty sure on one of the tracks from Then There Were Three. Before that i couldn't be sure without going over the old albums again. Assuming you still have yours ? Would love another one altho not a twin neck unless i could locate my old one which i did try a few yrs back but it could be anywhere nowadays. Dave [/quote] Still got the 12/4; traded in the 4/8, full story here: http://basschat.co.uk/topic/254282-more-love-for-wunjo-and-basschat/ - the Shergold appeared in the window at Wunjo and appeared on eBay not long after

[quote name='radiophonic' timestamp='1487240553' post='3238246'] That's so Prog. And I mean it in a good way. I'd love a Shergold 12 string. I have a Baldwin, so same lineage, but it's too fragile to gig regularly) [/quote] I used to be in Genesis tribute bands - also just out of shot, Moog Taurus bass pedals, an acoustic 12-string and a Ricky 4001. I've kept the Shergold 12/4 as it's such a good 12-string guitar.

[quote name='dmccombe7' timestamp='1487236251' post='3238190'] Afraid not. Not sure if the photos have a date as they were taken as soon as i got it. Checked and photos aren't dated but looking at reference points from other pics i have and when i started playing i think this might be 78. It was my 2nd bass after a Columbas Jazz. I started playing in 76 and would have had the Columbas about 2yrs before buying the Shergold. Latest would be late 78 / early 79. It was so long ago and a bit heavy for me. Traded it for an Aria SB1000. Cost me £630. That bit i can remember LOL I remember the conversations with Shergold (not sure who i was talking to) and they said they didn't make 8 strings altho they were looking at the possibilty. At that time Mike Rutherford was a big part of it and he played an 8 string bass and i think they wanted Mike to use one they had designed along with the twin neck he had. They suggested to me that they didn't have their systems set up for one as they didn't make full custom basses but could adapt their existing 6 string neck if that would be ok to me. Being young and naive i went with it. It was a great bass to play. The necks were fantastic and they had that distinct Shergold sound. Dave [/quote] Interesting story Dave, thanks for sharing. My 4/8 double neck had a great 4-string neck, exactly what you'd expect from Shergold. The 8-string was a bit difficult though. The serial number was 8401, following their convention for the first two numbers being the number of strings per neck. The -01 doesn't necessarily mean it was the first one, as your story supports, but it's a curious theory. As far as I can remember Mike Rutherford is credited with using an 8-string on Wind & Wuthering and Seconds Out, but the songs it's used in aren't mentioned. The only overlap between those two albums is Afterglow, which doesn't sound like an 8 to me. Happy to be proved wrong though!