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[quote name='Bilbo' timestamp='1433509815' post='2791704'] Jaco is barely a Jazz player at all. He does make a contribution to Jazz on one level but is nowhere near hardcore and it would be wrong to call him a pioneer in Jazz. Fusion, yes absolutely. Funk maybe. 'Electric bass' definitely. In Jazz terms, however, he is certainly not a pioneer in any real sense. You would need to look at double bass players for that. [/quote] Hmmm a bit disingenuous - can't let that go by... For the period of jazz YOU like maybe but jazz is much more than Bebop. For those not stuck 50s/60s, he was a huge pioneer... playing with a harmonic and rhythmic granularity which was entirely new. Let alone his pioneering use of harmonics and fretless bass.

Well duh....

I recognise this phenomena... Perceived high-value basses given short shrift versus a low-value 'beater' which you come to know and love... Solution - Be rigorous in what are investments and what are players, then beat the hell out of the players every day. My beater is my GB which was expensive but is the DB's... when it gets its first ding you'll here me from where-ever you are...

[quote name='Sibob' timestamp='1433272374' post='2789705'] Oh I'm not sure about that, I've played a few 33" basses that have great B strings, mostly ACGs to be fair. I imagine the restricting factor may be the frets, if they're as small as my MGS (which the Volo is modelled on to a degree), then having anything thicker than a .125 B string would probably just choke out. Si [/quote] Agreed although in a MGS you're citing one of the most expensive basses in the world so your examples are a little rarefied. I saw the MGS connection too and it would be great for someone to do an A/B comparison...

[quote name='discreet' timestamp='1433293617' post='2789860'] Scotland's Occidental [/quote] Shouldn't that be Och'cidental?

Warwick! Wait no Ibanez No the first one

[quote] Me too [/quote] Potentially but it might take some nut & neck adjustment, set-up and experimentation with string gauges to get that low 'B' intonated and ringing properly. Getting a good low 'B' is a challenge on a 34" scale bass let alone 33".

No it's in the North

Part 3 is glorious! Oodles of distorted bass care of Squire, Wetton & Mahavishnu's Rick Laird Comparison of R&R bass vs. Prog with Mr Squire. Great to hear UK on Radio 2...

[b] [size=4]"The original baddest bass in the west" - The North surely?[/size][/b]

[quote name='tedmanzie' timestamp='1432734381' post='2784388'] Max at SFX has quoted me £250 to custom make a variable high pass filter pedal (20hz to 1khz) with either 12dB/Oct or 24dB/Oct filter. Quite expensive just for this, but it's custom made, so to be expected I suppose. If anyone here is interested please PM me, I guess (haven't asked yet) he might be able to do it cheaper if there were a few orders. [/quote] For that price, you could also get one of the few DIs around that have a high pass filter, and they'd do a whole lot more. Admittedly I don't think they're variable though...

> Matheny, Pastorius and Williams It's John McLaughlin on guitar. [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]> I don't suppose anyone's got a transcription to 'Dark Prince' from the Trio Of Doom album[/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]I don't no. Sorry[/font][/color]

[quote name='blue' timestamp='1432757919' post='2784749'] My initial post was worded poorly. This was not meant to be a dealing with drunks in pubs thread. It was meant to be a punters in pubs telling us "you guys playing in live rock bands in pubs & bars are history and no longer relevent" thread. Blue [/quote] I agree - stringed instrument usage in a Simon Cowell/Dance music era is about as relevant as trombone is in any era. Rock is now a minority music behind Urban - fact. So get over it and don't annoy the public with your electric guitar music. No really, if I go out somewhere and there's a live band I'm outta there because I won't be able to talk and I'll have to suffer some anaemic neu rock covers of Kasabian. It's over people.

Anyone seen one in the flesh (in the UK) yet?

Didn't Jon Anderson take a rug on tour? No! That was a tepee. Greg Lake took the rug and had a roadie hoover it in front of a full house. It covered a rubber mat to avoid electrocution from the mike stand hence my hilarious comment much to the same effect earlier...

Or a roadie would hoover it then Greg Lake would sing on it...

[quote name='Bilbo' timestamp='1432370116' post='2780846'] Hellborg is an interesting player. He is no jazzer in any real sense and always said that he considered Mahavishnu to be Prog Rock band rather than Fusion. I know what he means. I have a download of his where he is in trio with Buckethead on acoustic guitar. it is all good stuff but, for me, his lack of polish is part of his charm. When I hear guys like Gary Willis who are to all intents and purposes, 'perfect', I lose interest. It always works better for me whn I hear the tension in players 'straining' to get something to happen. [/quote] Well you'd love my playing then 'cause I'm always "straining to get something to happen".. Yes - he seemed to have up'ed his game by the time he got to Shawn Lane and Buckethead.

Artist relations and some design work for Warwick now... His amps are supposed to be very good. I saw him with McLaughlin on this tour and with the reformed Mahavishnu. I thought he was very flubby and sloppy in his playing for a top-ranking player...

[quote name='tedmanzie' timestamp='1432306348' post='2780287'] I was interested so I had a look at the manual - I can't see a HPF mentioned? Is it in the specs? [/quote] From the manual on the Tech 21 site: "[i]BITE Engaged (in position), Bite activates a presence boost and subsonic filter.This tightens up the sound when you are in distorted settings and adds definition to your notes when playing in clean settings."[/i] Don't know what the frequency threshold is...

Good thread - v. educational. Will investigate the High-pass filter on the VT DI further then as it sounds like 'psycho-acoustics' will preserve my 'B' and possibly enhance the overall sound by reducing the workload on the speakers.

Just play the f**king black Rick and have done with it. Don't tease us with every other bass in the universe...

[quote name='dincz' timestamp='1432230308' post='2779521'] Much the same experience here. My channel strip has a 75Hz (12dB/oct) HPF and to be honest it barely affects the sound of my bass while keeping out the nasty subsonic stuff. [/quote] Interesting. A low 'B' has a frequency of 31Hz so in theory the channel you mention should rip the fundamental right out of it? I know that our ears work more off the overtones to deduce the actual note played but even so, it's slightly counter-intuitive (to me at least) to filter out frequencies higher than 30Hz?

Interesting... presumably this works for 5 & 6 strings too where presumably, there's more rumble? Anyone vouch for positive or negative results on an extended range? What's a good frequency cut-off to remove rumble but preserve a punchy low 'B'? BTW - I've been looking at a Tech21 VT Bass DI which also has a low-pass filter but I'm not sure how well it works (on a 5).

[quote name='visog' timestamp='1432189416' post='2778925'] You mean the ginger-haired, 5th in line, illegitimate kind... [/quote] Sorry - a bit harsh. He does seem like a good egg ([size=3]for a[/size] [size=2]ginger[/size]-[size=1]haired...[/size])

[quote name='Bilbo' timestamp='1432023867' post='2777268'] Achool Days [/quote] Do you have a cold?