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Can't ID it specifically, but it's a pretty generic-looking 60s, maybe early 70s shortscale. I've seen that style trc before, can't place it but it may come to me. Reminds me of mid/late 60s Kawai/Teisco stuff but other factories did make this sort of thing.

Lack of badge doesn't mean much really, likely would've been an importer's brand and not much of a clue to its origin. Might be worth your mate signing up to the [url="https://www.facebook.com/groups/55074615631/"]Vintage Japanese Guitars FB group[/url] and posting a few pics there. Someone will probably be able to ID it better than I can!

J.

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Various products of the Matsumoku factory.

Vantage bass: [url="http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vantage-Bass-made-in-Japan-circa-1979-/281878148280?hash=item41a13f34b8:g:XQEAAOSwNphWZWpw"]http://www.ebay.co.u...QEAAOSwNphWZWpw[/url]
Thunder 1: [url="http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Classic-Thunder-1-Bass-Guitar-/231776787631?hash=item35f6f91caf:g:phAAAOSw7FRWZXbR"]http://www.ebay.co.u...hAAAOSw7FRWZXbR[/url]
Westone Thunder Jet: [url="http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Westone-Thunder-Jet-Guitar-/221962344085?hash=item33adfc9695:g:KOkAAOSwNphWZbLr"]http://www.ebay.co.u...OkAAOSwNphWZbLr[/url] What's that doing in the basses for sale
SB600: [url="http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Aria-Pro-II-SB600-bass-guitar-MIJ-Matsumoku-vintage-all-original-with-case-/272069856368?hash=item3f58a08c70:g:Ts0AAOSwNphWZeo5"]http://www.ebay.co.u...s0AAOSwNphWZeo5[/url]

Probably more if I look further.

EDIT: Vantage bass. Looks very nice to me, if not in fantastic nick. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vantage-X88-Bass-guitar-Matsumoku-Japan-1982-/172021309342?hash=item280d44df9e:g:08kAAOSwp5JWUhhW

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[quote name='wotsy' timestamp='1449350100' post='2922885']
Ibanez Roadster Fretless for £175
[url="https://www.gumtree.com/p/guitar-instrument/ibanez-roadster-fretless-active-bass-a811894/1145249576"]https://www.gumtree....1894/1145249576[/url]
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Someone grab this quick.

I have one with Tru Bass strings on it.

Absolutely Luvverely!

This is giving it away!!!

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Thanks Happy Jack, I love these old semi basses. Looks like same hardware as my Aria violins, I will check tonight, but if they are the same it worth the price just for the replacement parts if the bass itself didn't play so well. I think would have to paint it or at least re-varnish it though, looks like someone done it at the same time as painting their fence.

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Maya P Bass [url="http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/EARLY-70s-MAYA-PRECISION-BASS-FUJIGEN-JAPAN-LAWSUIT-EL-MAYA-JOODEE-ANTORIA-/311498544109?hash=item4886c293ed:g:zpsAAOSwv-NWYNbL"]http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/EARLY-70s-MAYA-PRECISION-BASS-FUJIGEN-JAPAN-LAWSUIT-EL-MAYA-JOODEE-ANTORIA-/311498544109?hash=item4886c293ed:g:zpsAAOSwv-NWYNbL[/url]
Very nice looking but overpriced methinks

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[quote name='randythoades' timestamp='1449588513' post='2924906']
Maya P Bass [url="http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/EARLY-70s-MAYA-PRECISION-BASS-FUJIGEN-JAPAN-LAWSUIT-EL-MAYA-JOODEE-ANTORIA-/311498544109?hash=item4886c293ed:g:zpsAAOSwv-NWYNbL"]http://www.ebay.co.u...psAAOSwv-NWYNbL[/url]
Very nice looking but overpriced methinks
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And very dodgy, IMO. Screams "bitsa" to me, headstock logo screams fakey transfer, neck looks about 30 years younger than the body, tuners & pups aren't MIJ

Mayas were not built by Fujigen, the only thing on this bass that might be is the neckplate. And I'm not even convinced by that.

J.

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[quote name='Annoying Twit' timestamp='1449651317' post='2925473']
Too many unrealistic starting price Matsumoku basses today.

Then, by comparison, there's this one: [url="http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Brown-WESTONE-electric-quitar-/262180986016?hash=item3d0b345ca0:g:bZEAAOSwfZ1WZDOH"]http://www.ebay.co.u...ZEAAOSwfZ1WZDOH[/url]
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Proper bargain, I'm saved by the fact it's so far away. :rolleyes:

J.

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[quote name='TheGreek' timestamp='1449758277' post='2926562']
It didn't sell for £200 so the next thing to do is add £100 to the price!! I do struggle to follow some people's thinking sometimes...It is a nice bass BTW.
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My guess was that the seller realised that it was worth more than it was priced at, so she cancelled the BIN and relisted. Did it really end normally? It was only listed a day or two ago.

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[quote name='TheGreek' timestamp='1449758277' post='2926562']
It didn't sell for £200 so the next thing to do is add £100 to the price!! I do struggle to follow some people's thinking sometimes...It is a nice bass BTW.
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Since there's almost no reason to be paying listing fees these days, unless you need a quick sale, this can be quite a good strategy. List something at the top end of it's price range and then when it doesn't sell, realist at a higher price, and then on subsequent listings gradually lower the price until someone bites.

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Completely ridiculous Aria FB series: [url="http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BLACK-ARIA-PRO-II-2-series-FB-bass-guitar-pro-defretted-schwarz-japan-/301817500762?hash=item4645b9945a:g:TNkAAOSwHQ9WZAEz"]http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BLACK-ARIA-PRO-II-2-series-FB-bass-guitar-pro-defretted-schwarz-japan-/301817500762?hash=item4645b9945a:g:TNkAAOSwHQ9WZAEz[/url]

As far as I know they were a low to mid level series and certainly not above SB1000 territory, especially with the defret. 2 hopes. Bob Hope and No Hope.

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  • 2 weeks later...

Aria P2 SB-R80 for "only" £950. Form an orderly queue.

[url="http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Rare-Vintage-Aria-Pro-ll-SB-R80-Bass-Guitar-in-Padouk-Red-Made-by-Matsumoku-/281898159027?hash=item41a2708bb3:g:MS4AAOSw5dNWhWTv"]http://www.ebay.co.u...S4AAOSw5dNWhWTv[/url]

The Spectrum bass for £165 starting bid is less spectacular.

But, here we have a bass that's just so MIJ that it's made in both the Fujigen and Matsumoku factories. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Satellite-Bass-1970s-MIJ-Through-Neck-Japan-P-Bass-P-Bass-Matsumoku-Fuji-Gen-/131687897880?hash=item1ea935db18:g:a0cAAOSwAKxWUkBH

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[quote name='Annoying Twit' timestamp='1451587004' post='2941722']
But, here we have a bass that's just so MIJ that it's made in both the Fujigen and Matsumoku factories. [url="http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Satellite-Bass-1970s-MIJ-Through-Neck-Japan-P-Bass-P-Bass-Matsumoku-Fuji-Gen-/131687897880?hash=item1ea935db18:g:a0cAAOSwAKxWUkBH"]http://www.ebay.co.u...0cAAOSwAKxWUkBH[/url]
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That'll be from when Fujigen & Matsumoku went off on holiday together. To Korea. :lol:

J.

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[quote name='randythoades' timestamp='1450458804' post='2933091']
Completely ridiculous Aria FB series: [url="http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BLACK-ARIA-PRO-II-2-series-FB-bass-guitar-pro-defretted-schwarz-japan-/301817500762?hash=item4645b9945a:g:TNkAAOSwHQ9WZAEz"]http://www.ebay.co.u...NkAAOSwHQ9WZAEz[/url]

As far as I know they were a low to mid level series and certainly not above SB1000 territory, especially with the defret. 2 hopes. Bob Hope and No Hope.
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Only just seen your post, but that looks identical to my first bass. Made in Korea, bought new in 1990 for £190. It was awful - the body was some kind of chipboard like affair covered in a thick (4 to 5mm) layer of some plasticky resin stuff. The headstock snapped off it, and I thankfully bought a mint Westone Thunder 1A with the early style of logo.

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