Rumble 800 combo not loud enough??

[Suezee]

I play in a 5 piece rock band: 2 guitarists drummer, bass and singer. No soundman & dont go through PA; just a backline. Im finding it difficult to hear my amp and last gig my output was switched to full with gain & master at 75% and vintage button pressed in. I got this combo as so many rave reviews about how loud it is & of course lightweight. Replaced my LM800 head & 4x10 cab which barely went above 25% on master vol. I know Im only  400w but surely that should cut through? Or maybe we are just too loud? Am I best off getting the 115 extension cab or 2x10?

 

[Japhet]

I have the 500 combo (recently acquired). I've gigged it once going straight into the amp just to see what it was capable of and it seemed plenty loud to me. Next time I'll be using my pedal board and I'm pretty sure my MicroThumpinator will yield big results. It cuts out all of the frequencies below 37Hz (I think) and those frequencies gobble up the output of the amp with no sonic benefit. I'd strongly advise trying one out because it concentrates the power of your amp in frequencies that can actually be heard and cuts out the woolly stuff that either sounds dreadful or can't be heard at all.

Edited 3 hours ago by Japhet

[synthaside]

Yes  you guys are probably way too loud .... Buy a cheap  DB meter on amazon there around 18 quid and check your volume in the room .
 

Everywhere you play these days unless your playing a stadium is going to have a health and safety limit to protect their staff , 100 decibel peaking combined is on the verge of too loud especially in an rehearsal room , we use the meter balance our  volume for each of the instruments it solves a lot of those noise wars that guitarists love to Engauge in as they turn up over each other.

As Someone who also doesn't seem to get on with any of the fender rumble , ( who also happens to play an active stingray ) Whenever i have had the fender rumble forced upon me at shared Stage's rehearsal rooms etc i have had to do some very weird EQ'ing  to cut through to get the sound / clarity that i have / want  out of one of these , I find them both lacking the mids and  Very boomy  in the low end , both area's which i want to minimise to cut through. 

> What does your EQ look like on the amp
> What does your EQ look like on the Ray 
>  Have you changed your battery recently  (  i did this and my volume increased quite dramatically turns out i do forget to unplug it a lot )

pushing your mids will really help you cut through a mix.

[synthaside]

Also Remember , Decibels aren't a linear scale ,  so if something is  10 DB more than another thing it's a 10 fold increase in sound intensity

So when one of the guitarists or the drummer goes its  only  110 or 120  and a Jackhammer is usually about 80 DB 😉

[Lozz196]

Four ten inch speakers as oppose to two - assuming similar quality - will more than likely make a difference, you`ve reduced the "bigness" of the sound by half, same as if you`d paired your LM800 with a 210 rather than 410 there would be an impact of the size of the sound.

 

One thing to think of, although you`re having difficulty hearing the amp when playing @Suezee, did you get the opportunity to hear the mix of the band out front. Sometimes just elevating the combo and getting it off the ground can work wonders.

 

Re another cab, double up on whatever format your combo is, if 210 then get the same cab-wise.