Pubs and venues to be protected from noise complaints

[Cliff Edge]

sounds like a plan. 
 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cwye5jx8y3go

[chris_b]

Too late for many gigs.

[Rich]

ABOUT BLOODY TIME. But yes, too late for many fine venues. RIP The Point, Cardiff.

There are only a few lower forms of life than someone who moves in near an established music venue, knowing full well that it's there, and then complains about it to the extent that it is forced to close. Scumbags. I hope their houses get infestations of mountain-beaver fleas.

[Mottlefeeder]

Noise pollution is a common cause of stress, so keeping it down, or keeping it in, will reduce ill health and the resultant load on the NHS.

 

I have no problem with people who want it loud, but I think it is wrong to expect the rest of the neighbourhood to pay for soundproofing. The polluter should pay for the reduction/treatment of their pollution.

 

If that results in most pubs being quiet, and purpose built venues for loud music, with prices to suit, that seems fair to me.

 

David

[Count Bassy]

14 minutes ago, Mottlefeeder said:

Noise pollution is a common cause of stress, so keeping it down, or keeping it in, will reduce ill health and the resultant load on the NHS.

 

I have no problem with people who want it loud, but I think it is wrong to expect the rest of the neighbourhood to pay for soundproofing. The polluter should pay for the reduction/treatment of their pollution.

 

If that results in most pubs being quiet, and purpose built venues for loud music, with prices to suit, that seems fair to me.

 

David

It's a case of who was there first. If you build a dwelling next to a noisy venue then that should be your responibility. If a bar/cub opene up next to you then it's their responsibility.

 

It's the "Agent of Change " princible.

Edited 5 hours ago by Count Bassy

[Hellzero]

This is the stupidest law project ever.

 

Noise is a health problem, period.

 

So noise makers must contain it within their properties and limits, so they are the ones to build the soundproof barrier, not the neighbourhood.

 

It's also based on respecting the others.

 

If you understand this, you'll live in total harmony with everyone.

 

The freedom of one ends where that of another begins.

[lowdown]

I thought the English loved noise? **

 

“The English may not like music, but they absolutely love the noise it makes”.

 

Sir Thomas Beecham

 

 

 

 

 

[Gank Bass]

Brings back fond memories of the police being called to a pub gig on the lovely Birmingham waterfront. The complaint came from a nearby docked boat, maybe float off??

[TimR]

2 hours ago, Count Bassy said:

It's a case of who was there first. If you build a dwelling next to a noisy venue then that should be your responibility. If a bar/cub opene up next to you then it's their responsibility.

 

It's the "Agent of Change " princible.

 

It's a case of the level of noise that is reasonably expected. 

 

If I moved next to a pub that played music, I'd expect music at certain times of the week and at a certain level.

 

Bands are getting louder and venues are staying open later.

 

There are developers that do stupid things like build retirement flats next to music venues, that kind of thing should be thrown back to the developers to fix. But we know developers vanish with regularity for a new company to spring up in their places.

 

It's far more complex and nuanced than; buy a place near a pub and you should expect trouble and noise, just put up with it.

[TimR]

And allowing pubs to spill put into the street in city centres is one thing, but in an area where there is housing, without the landlord being expected to control rowdy behaviour is another.

 

Having people eating, drinking and talking all week outside your front door is one thing. Having people shouting and swearing is another. 

 

Again, it's about what is reasonably expected.  

[Count Bassy]

4 hours ago, Hellzero said:

This is the stupidest law project ever.

 

Noise is a health problem, period.

 

So noise makers must contain it within their properties and limits, so they are the ones to build the soundproof barrier, not the neighbourhood.

 

It's also based on respecting the others.

 

If you understand this, you'll live in total harmony with everyone.

 

The freedom of one ends where that of another begins.

You first statement is a matter of opinion. I disagree.

 

Your second statement is simply wrong. Noise CAN be a health problem but it all depends on the level.

 

 

I can't think of any club I've been to where the noise outside is anywhere like a health problem. Possibly annoying to neighbours, but a health problem? No.

 

If you move next to that sort of existing noise source then you should have no right to complain.