Stub Mandrel Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 17 hours ago, Quilly said: I was expecting a significant cut in volume going up to a higher impedance cabinet, I needn't have worried. Even through an 8ohm cab this rig has loads in the tank. I have a PJB C4, the Elf can just keep up with a relatively quiet drummer in a rehearsal using it, but the sound is good. On the other hand with my AT212 which is 4R, I think it would be fine for most situations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franticsmurf Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 (edited) On 18/07/2022 at 20:26, Quilly said: The 110 came in the post from Thomann today . I can’t wait to play a gig with this rig . I initially thought this would only be suitable for small acoustic types of gigs but the power is unreal from this thing. I'm also interested in how it performs at a gig. Edited July 20, 2022 by Franticsmurf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stereoplayer Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 I ended up returning mine…it worked fine. I got another MB200 as a spare and I was half the price of the elf. And I like the GK a lot better. Maybe I’ll get another one used cheaper because I do like them… I’m retired and gotta look at the bottom line…$. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quilly Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 (edited) I was able to get a fairly decent loud response from the 110 with my little bastard , excuse the awkward looking overhang . It would still do a small acoustic type gig Edited July 20, 2022 by Quilly 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merton Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 Used mine with my Barefaced One10 last night for a rehearsal. “Bloody marvellous” springs to mind. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacDaddy Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 2 hours ago, stereoplayer said: I ended up returning mine…it worked fine. I got another MB200 as a spare and I was half the price of the elf. And I like the GK a lot better. Maybe I’ll get another one used cheaper because I do like them… I’m retired and gotta look at the bottom line…$. Is the MB200 louder than the Elf? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stereoplayer Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 (edited) 27 minutes ago, MacDaddy said: Is the MB200 louder than the Elf? Well, they are both 200 Watts @4 Ohms. I’d say yes they’re about the same in volume. Personally, I think the GK MB-200 has a warmer, gooey tone over all. The tone just suits my tastes well. I will use the MbB200 as a spare for my 2 X GK stereo rig. No offense to the ELF though, they are very nice! Edited July 20, 2022 by stereoplayer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacDaddy Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 I wonder how comparitively loud, 2 Elf's would be? I'm guess the physics are not as simple as 2 x 200w amps = 1 x 400w amp! 😁 But seriously, bearing in mind the size, could 2 Elf's and 2 speakers, be a viable option? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stereoplayer Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 3 minutes ago, MacDaddy said: I wonder how comparitively loud, 2 Elf's would be? I'm guess the physics are not as simple as 2 x 200w amps = 1 x 400w amp! 😁 But seriously, bearing in mind the size, could 2 Elf's and 2 speakers, be a viable option? They sure could! See my above 2x rig! It roars! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stub Mandrel Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 8 hours ago, Quilly said: I was able to get a fairly decent loud response from the 110 with my little bastard , excuse the awkward looking overhang . It would still do a small acoustic type gig Not often amp is bigger than speaker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Downunderwonder Posted July 21, 2022 Share Posted July 21, 2022 8 hours ago, MacDaddy said: I wonder how comparitively loud, 2 Elf's would be? I'm guess the physics are not as simple as 2 x 200w amps = 1 x 400w amp! 😁 But seriously, bearing in mind the size, could 2 Elf's and 2 speakers, be a viable option? For loudness v cartage you would be better off with one power hungry cab and a bigger amp... or just a bigger amp with the two cabs. Elf isn't exactly cheap, you're paying good money for smallness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chienmortbb Posted July 21, 2022 Share Posted July 21, 2022 (edited) On 20/07/2022 at 16:27, stereoplayer said: Well, they are both 200 Watts @4 Ohms. I’d say yes they’re about the same in volume. Personally, I think the GK MB-200 has a warmer, gooey tone over all. The tone just suits my tastes well. I will use the MbB200 as a spare for my 2 X GK stereo rig. No offense to the ELF though, they are very nice! The MB200 uses the ICEPower 50ASX2 BTL, 170Watts into 4 ohms and 100 watts into 8 Ohms. Edited July 21, 2022 by Chienmortbb Had to correct the model number, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stereoplayer Posted July 21, 2022 Share Posted July 21, 2022 4 hours ago, Chienmortbb said: The MB200 uses the ICEPower ASX50BTL, 170Watts into 4 ohms and 100 watts into 8 Ohms. I’ll take your word for it…but the specs say 200 Watts at 4 Ohms. A screen capture of the GK site. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yorks5stringer Posted July 21, 2022 Share Posted July 21, 2022 22 hours ago, stereoplayer said: Well, they are both 200 Watts @4 Ohms. I’d say yes they’re about the same in volume. Personally, I think the GK MB-200 has a warmer, gooey tone over all. The tone just suits my tastes well. I will use the MbB200 as a spare for my 2 X GK stereo rig. No offense to the ELF though, they are very nice! I see you have the original 'briefcase' amp on the bottom..... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stereoplayer Posted July 21, 2022 Share Posted July 21, 2022 3 minutes ago, yorks5stringer said: I see you have the original 'briefcase' amp on the bottom..... I’m working on that… I have a taller one but got a shorter one coming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quilly Posted July 21, 2022 Share Posted July 21, 2022 18 hours ago, Stub Mandrel said: Not often amp is bigger than speaker. It’s way heavier too 🙄 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quilly Posted July 21, 2022 Share Posted July 21, 2022 Did anyone else notice the elf fan “ramp up” when you dig in a little bit 🤔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merton Posted July 21, 2022 Share Posted July 21, 2022 5 minutes ago, Quilly said: Did anyone else notice the elf fan “ramp up” when you dig in a little bit 🤔 Yep. Seems a sensible design feature but I know a lot of people complain it’s too loud 😅 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quilly Posted July 21, 2022 Share Posted July 21, 2022 2 hours ago, Merton said: Yep. Seems a sensible design feature but I know a lot of people complain it’s too loud 😅 I imagine TE making the design so compact required some compromises from such a small fan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chienmortbb Posted July 21, 2022 Share Posted July 21, 2022 6 hours ago, stereoplayer said: I’ll take your word for it…but the specs say 200 Watts at 4 Ohms. A screen capture of the GK site. They are right and wrong, the 50ASX2 can reach 200watts into 4 ohms but at very high distortion. Also the power output depends on the input voltage. The ICEPower datasheet states that at 10% distortion and 230V you can get 220W and that reduces to 180W at 115V input. At 1% distortion, it outputs 170W at 230V and 150W at 120V ac input. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stub Mandrel Posted July 21, 2022 Share Posted July 21, 2022 54 minutes ago, Quilly said: I imagine TE making the design so compact required some compromises from such a small fan It's only a one-watt fan, but it's a Trace Elliot Watt. 2 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacDaddy Posted July 21, 2022 Share Posted July 21, 2022 24 minutes ago, Chienmortbb said: They are right and wrong, the 50ASX2 can reach 200watts into 4 ohms but at very high distortion. Also the power output depends on the input voltage. The ICEPower datasheet states that at 10% distortion and 230V you can get 220W and that reduces to 180W at 115V input. At 1% distortion, it outputs 170W at 230V and 150W at 120V ac input. How does the Elf compare? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickeyboro Posted July 21, 2022 Share Posted July 21, 2022 Just played a blues gig with Elf plus Barefaced One10. Drums, harmonica, guitar, 2 vocals. Barely needed to turn volume halfway. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSeagull Posted July 24, 2022 Share Posted July 24, 2022 Used mine for the first time in anger today. I was very impressed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quilly Posted August 5, 2022 Share Posted August 5, 2022 Playing a small gig with my elf 'Rig' tomorrow, I'll be using my Sandberg California VS and maybe my Sandberg Basic as backup. I don't plan on using much in the way of effects, maybe a little compression and chorus. Will report back 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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