Vintage Fenders

[Stub Mandrel]

40 minutes ago, Burns-bass said:

I’m happier with the modern US stuff and I reckon you should be too.

 

I wouldn't presume to suggest what you should like.

 

I have 19 basses, active and passive, 4 & 5 string, long and short scale, fretted and fretless, modern and traditional, d from every decade from the 60s to the 2020s. So I think I'm very open to different instruments. 

 

I've tried basses like the modern players. They look pretty, but I don't bond with them.

 

My friends who have had early 60s fenders since the 60s/70s still gig them and I do prefer them.

 

The two basses I find myself gigging most are the 1960 P reissue and the 1963 J reissue. Having played real ones, I'm pretty sure I would use them if I could.

[Burns-bass]

8 hours ago, Stub Mandrel said:

 

I wouldn't presume to suggest what you should like.

 

I have 19 basses, active and passive, 4 & 5 string, long and short scale, fretted and fretless, modern and traditional, d from every decade from the 60s to the 2020s. So I think I'm very open to different instruments. 

 

I've tried basses like the modern players. They look pretty, but I don't bond with them.

 

My friends who have had early 60s fenders since the 60s/70s still gig them and I do prefer them.

 

The two basses I find myself gigging most are the 1960 P reissue and the 1963 J reissue. Having played real ones, I'm pretty sure I would use them if I could.

It was a gentle comment on a forum, don’t worry, I’m not telling you what to do. In the wider world it’s all irrelevant really.
 

A lot of people fetishise these basses and then realise that the thought was somewhat different to the reality. That’s all I was pointing out. 
 

I guess with 19 basses if this really was the life changing holy grail you could sell them all, free up some cash and become a lone bass gunslinger!

 

[Mrbigstuff]

15 minutes ago, Burns-bass said:

It was a gentle comment on a forum, don’t worry, I’m not telling you what to do. In the wider world it’s all irrelevant really.
 

A lot of people fetishise these basses and then realise that the thought was somewhat different to the reality. That’s all I was pointing out. 
 

I guess with 19 basses if this really was the life changing holy grail you could sell them all, free up some cash and become a lone bass gunslinger!

 

Don’t think anyone is saying they’re holy grail. But they’re a flavour modern fenders don’t give or any repros.

[snorkie635]

Here's an old one I've just noticed up for sale. Thought you guys might enjoy discussing?

 

 

 

https://www.vintagerareandretro.co.uk/store/1964-Fender-Precision-Refin-p769780839

[Hellzero]

1 hour ago, snorkie635 said:

Here's an old one I've just noticed up for sale. Thought you guys might enjoy discussing?

 

 

 

https://www.vintagerareandretro.co.uk/store/1964-Fender-Precision-Refin-p769780839

🤦🏻😂 summarises it all.

 

Was a lefty and they didn't bother setting the intonation again.

 

Fake neck plate.

 

The upper side of the body will fall apart sooner than you might think, the lower side has a huge crack and the center joint is doubtful.

 

The back of the headstock has a strange crack.

 

F*ckef up electronic with wrong capacitor and one linear pot!?!

 

Not a refinish, but a paint removal with some lacquer put afterwards.

 

And the logo is weird.

 

Just what I noticed after a very quick look.

 

What a mess.

 

Edited 10 hours ago by Hellzero
Wrong, not wring... 🤦🏻

[Steve Browning]

Looks like a good deal to me. The changes are minimal overall, and stripping to natural was pretty common back then. My 72 has been stripped and so was my 66, before being refinished back to sunburst.

 

If the changes included pickups, tuners, scratchplate or the like, I'd think differently. 

[snorkie635]

1 minute ago, Hellzero said:

🤦🏻😂 summarises it all.

 

Was a lefty and they didn't bother setting the intonation again.

 

Fake neck plate.

 

The upper side of the body will fall apart sooner than you might think, the lower side has a huge crack and the center joint is doubtful.

 

The back of the headstock has a strange crack.

 

F*ckef up electronic with wring capacitor and one linear pot!?!

 

Not a refinish, but a paint removal with some lacquer put afterwards.

 

And the logo is weird.

 

Just what I noticed after a very quick look.

 

What a mess.

I thought you'd like it. 

[Belka]

It looks mostly genuine, but I'd agree with Hellzero in really not liking the look of all the cracks on the bass; all over the body, and that one on the headstock/neck too. It's probably not about to fall apart, but that body has had some mistreatment over the years. It is very cheap for a '64 but for that money I'd much rather get a late '60s CBS in good condition.  

[Reggaebass]

That’s been up for sale on quite a few different sites for a long time , I’ve seen it before, not one for me 

[walshy]

1 hour ago, Reggaebass said:

That’s been up for sale on quite a few different sites for a long time , I’ve seen it before, not one for me 

Same, there’s a reason no one’s bought it and it’s floated around a lot. At that price point I’d normally buy for my own stock but haven’t 

[dodgnofski]

This one is ‘almost’ within my budget for an early 60’s P - apart from the infilled body it looks OK to my untrained eye - what does the team think?

 

https://www.vintageandmodernguitars.co.uk/product/1960-fender-precision-bass-olympic-white-copy/

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Steve Browning]

Good players grade instument I'd say. I have an irrational dislike of light coloured basses (I should list that!!) so wouldn't entertain it (I certainly would the 64, though not my favourite neck profile).

[Steve Browning]

My 65 Jazz. 100% original with the exception of the body rout, the pickups, the electrics, the scratchplate, the tuners. Ok, so the body and neck are the original bits, just not in original condition. 🙂

 

[Reggaebass]

It all looks good and I like that colour combo but for me I couldn’t get on with that body rout , but I suppose that’s reflected in the price , I’ve been looking at a lot of 60s precisions lately and they have gone up considerably 

[peteb]

This one on eBay is inviting offers for his 78 P bass. 

 

I wouldn't know where to start putting right what ever the hell he's done to the paint job. Apart from that, I dunno. Its got an old Badass, which I think is pretty cool, but apart from that there might be a decent bass in there, even if it currently looks like a dog's dinner. It's not silly money, but still too much for the condition (to me): 

 

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/267360313595?mkevt=1&mkpid=2&emsid=e90001.m161799.l174482&plmtId=700008&mesgId=3015&mkcid=8&ch=osgood&bu=43398990830&trkId=047e9bb3-4020-33a3-9807-5e8107c4e99f&cnvId=700003&recoId=267360313595&recoPos=1 

 

[Reggaebass]

I don’t normally go for the late 70s ones and usually i like as original as poss but I’ve got a strange attraction to this 77, I was looking for an early P bass to just leave at the studio , been watching it for ages 

https://ebay.us/m/wkghNy

[Belka]

25 minutes ago, peteb said:

This one on eBay is inviting offers for his 78 P bass. 

 

I wouldn't know where to start putting right what ever the hell he's done to the paint job. Apart from that, I dunno. Its got an old Badass, which I think is pretty cool, but apart from that there might be a decent bass in there, even if it currently looks like a dog's dinner. It's not silly money, but still too much for the condition (to me): 

 

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/267360313595?mkevt=1&mkpid=2&emsid=e90001.m161799.l174482&plmtId=700008&mesgId=3015&mkcid=8&ch=osgood&bu=43398990830&trkId=047e9bb3-4020-33a3-9807-5e8107c4e99f&cnvId=700003&recoId=267360313595&recoPos=1 

 

It looks like the very worst attempt at a 'custom colour over another colour' I've ever seen. And the fretboard looks filthy. Personally, there's no way I could own that without refinishing it, even if it's just back to natural. 

 

At that price, once you factor in the £500 for stripping/refinishing and a good setup, you're looking at around £1800-2000 all in. You see decent condition original 77-81 Precisions for those kind of prices all the the time now at places like Bass Bros, so not really worth it.

Edited 3 hours ago by Belka

[peteb]

18 minutes ago, Reggaebass said:

I don’t normally go for the late 70s ones and usually i like as original as poss but I’ve got a strange attraction to this 77, I was looking for an early P bass to just leave at the studio , been watching it for ages 

https://ebay.us/m/wkghNy

 

Not the right time (when is it ever), but if it's still there when I get back from holiday I might be in the market for something like that! The thing with late 70s P basses is that you really need to have to look at them first.  

 

[Belka]

https://reverb.com/uk/item/91466142-fender-precision-1972-olympic-white-a-neck-profile-uk-export-custom-order-exc-condition-original-dealer-hsc-free-worldwide-shipping?bk=eyJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJqdGkiOiIwOGYwNjliNy0zMzhhLTRjMDEtYTVjMi03YjdkYWJlOTQ0OTUiLCJpYXQiOjE3NTQ5MjcyMDIsInVzZXJfaWQiOiIiLCJzZXNzaW9uX2lkIjoiM2JiNjc4ODktOGYxYy00MWRkLWJjMGQtNGRlNWIzMjhkNmU5IiwiY29va2llX2lkIjoiMjNmYmE3Y2MtZjA4MC00ZDBmLWFhNzItOWYzOTI5MWQ3NjJlIiwicHJvZHVjdF9pZCI6IjkxNDY2MTQyIiwic291cmNlIjoiTk9ORSJ9.v1PB7-nx1xPxrMjhATKUy0-xs0GiviLIyNmsurRq8KY

 

What do you all reckon of this? Personally after wading through the florid AI assisted text, and looking at the pictures, I think whoever is selling this is a very naughty boy/girl. It's obviously a '72 neck bolted to a '74 body, and even then I would have questions about that 'genuine' Fender pickguard, as well as the cloth wiring, which I thought had changed to plastic by 1969. 

 

 

[Reggaebass]

6 minutes ago, Belka said:

https://reverb.com/uk/item/91466142-fender-precision-1972-olympic-white-a-neck-profile-uk-export-custom-order-exc-condition-original-dealer-hsc-free-worldwide-shipping?bk=eyJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJqdGkiOiIwOGYwNjliNy0zMzhhLTRjMDEtYTVjMi03YjdkYWJlOTQ0OTUiLCJpYXQiOjE3NTQ5MjcyMDIsInVzZXJfaWQiOiIiLCJzZXNzaW9uX2lkIjoiM2JiNjc4ODktOGYxYy00MWRkLWJjMGQtNGRlNWIzMjhkNmU5IiwiY29va2llX2lkIjoiMjNmYmE3Y2MtZjA4MC00ZDBmLWFhNzItOWYzOTI5MWQ3NjJlIiwicHJvZHVjdF9pZCI6IjkxNDY2MTQyIiwic291cmNlIjoiTk9ORSJ9.v1PB7-nx1xPxrMjhATKUy0-xs0GiviLIyNmsurRq8KY

 

What do you all reckon of this? Personally after wading through the florid AI assisted text, and looking at the pictures, I think whoever is selling this is a very naughty boy/girl. It's obviously a '72 neck bolted to a '74 body, and even then I would have questions about that 'genuine' Fender pickguard, as well as the cloth wiring, which I thought had changed to plastic by 1969. 

 

 

Yeah I saw that and thought the same, I’d say it’s a parts one put together