Newfoundfreedom Posted December 29, 2018 Share Posted December 29, 2018 (edited) A little New year's quiz for all you clever bass chatters. I spotted this on an online sale site out here in Bulgaria (think Gumtreeski) It's simply listed as "Wonderful custom made tool. New strings, suitcase and belt." Or case and strap, allowing for dodgy translation. It looks reasonably decent to me, but then I'm far from an expert. So I thought I'd leave it to the far more experienced people on here to dissect it. So far I've got as far as PJ configuration, through neck, most likely active pickups. So, what else, and more importantly what do you think it's worth? I obviously know the asking price. So the nearest to the price wins my undying respect (which has about the same street value as a Mars Bar). I'll reveal the asking price and the closest guess whilst drinking my first tipple of the evening on New Year's Eve. Have at it. Edited December 29, 2018 by Newfoundfreedom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dad3353 Posted December 29, 2018 Share Posted December 29, 2018 200 Lev..? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted December 29, 2018 Share Posted December 29, 2018 500 lev. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visog Posted December 29, 2018 Share Posted December 29, 2018 Hmmm... not much. Unbranded parts. No provenance of the luthier. Does the headstock say 'Giokov'? Treat with caution... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newfoundfreedom Posted December 29, 2018 Author Share Posted December 29, 2018 21 minutes ago, visog said: Hmmm... not much. Unbranded parts. No provenance of the luthier. Does the headstock say 'Giokov'? Treat with caution... Yes as far as I can tell it's supposed to be GG Giokov. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newfoundfreedom Posted December 29, 2018 Author Share Posted December 29, 2018 (edited) OK so far we have 200 leva = approx £90 And 500 leva approx £230. Probably easier to stick to the Queen's own £ for those uninitiated with Eastern European finance. 😂 Edited December 29, 2018 by Newfoundfreedom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tauzero Posted December 29, 2018 Share Posted December 29, 2018 Additional context would be useful, like the average wage in Bulgaria. Bridge looks like a Schaller 3D, no expense spent on the knobs though. As house prices in Bulgaria are about 1-2% of house prices here (4 bed detached houses starting at £3k), I'd guess that bass prices would be a bit lower too. So I'll go for £45/95 leva. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josie Posted December 29, 2018 Share Posted December 29, 2018 1 hour ago, Newfoundfreedom said: Yes as far as I can tell it's supposed to be GG Giokov. That name isn't mentioned on the CheesyGuitars site, which is pretty extensive (but seems to have been inactive since 2010). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newfoundfreedom Posted December 29, 2018 Author Share Posted December 29, 2018 58 minutes ago, tauzero said: Additional context would be useful, like the average wage in Bulgaria. Bridge looks like a Schaller 3D, no expense spent on the knobs though. As house prices in Bulgaria are about 1-2% of house prices here (4 bed detached houses starting at £3k), I'd guess that bass prices would be a bit lower too. So I'll go for £45/95 leva. Unfortunately not. Because it's a small population and very much a make do and mend society, there is really not much of a second hand market. So things like musical equipment and even cars are generally more expensive than in the UK, even though the average wage is about 5 times less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newfoundfreedom Posted December 29, 2018 Author Share Posted December 29, 2018 46 minutes ago, josie said: That name isn't mentioned on the CheesyGuitars site, which is pretty extensive (but seems to have been inactive since 2010). I didn't get any results on Google either, so most likely a garage manufacturer or one off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delberthot Posted December 29, 2018 Share Posted December 29, 2018 I'll say either £50 or £2000. The maker might have gone for the "cheap shite" look 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stingrayPete1977 Posted December 29, 2018 Share Posted December 29, 2018 It looks decent at first but then when you look closer you can see the routing around the pickups and the A string touching the E string tuning peg! £125? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newfoundfreedom Posted December 29, 2018 Author Share Posted December 29, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, stingrayPete1977 said: It looks decent at first but then when you look closer you can see the routing around the pickups and the A string touching the E string tuning peg! £125? Well spotted. Now I look more closely, if you zoom in you can also see the glue where the woods are glued together on the body. It also looks like there's been a wooden dowel inserted to fill a hole right by the bridge. Very sloppy. It's surprising what you can miss at first glance. Edited December 29, 2018 by Newfoundfreedom 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newfoundfreedom Posted December 29, 2018 Author Share Posted December 29, 2018 1 hour ago, Delberthot said: I'll say either £50 or £2000. The maker might have gone for the "cheap shite" look I'd say he's pulled it off. Though to be fair, I've seen far worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angelus Posted December 29, 2018 Share Posted December 29, 2018 Is the truss rod adjustment made with a 10mm nut on the end of 2 ft of threaded rod? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newfoundfreedom Posted December 29, 2018 Author Share Posted December 29, 2018 14 minutes ago, Angelus said: Is the truss rod adjustment made with a 10mm nut on the end of 2 ft of threaded rod? Your guess is as good as mine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Dare Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 How much is it "worth"? Nothing. How much might someone pay for it? depends on how desperate/daft they are. I'll go with £65 because it has a case and strap and a Schaller bridge.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newfoundfreedom Posted December 30, 2018 Author Share Posted December 30, 2018 56 minutes ago, Dan Dare said: How much is it "worth"? Nothing. How much might someone pay for it? depends on how desperate/daft they are. I'll go with £65 because it has a case and strap and a Schaller bridge.. Fair comment. Maybe I should rephrase to "guess the asking price". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rollie 55 Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 im going for 70 pounds. as i aint got a clue really 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan63 Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 asking £1000 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stingrayPete1977 Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 If you don't ask you don't get..... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newfoundfreedom Posted December 31, 2018 Author Share Posted December 31, 2018 OK here we go. Drumroll please. Brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr. Ok that's enough! Bloody drummers! The asking price is 550 leva. Which is around 250 of the Great British Queens Pounds. The closest was @Rich Your prize is the knowledge that you're not living in the second hand instrument graveyard that is Bulgaria. I don't miss many things about the UK, but I do tend to watch the sale adds on here, and eBay with envious eyes. The price of second hand gear over there is far lower and a vastly better choice and quality. Right. I'm off for a vodka or six. A very happy new year to you all. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dem Jolie-blues Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 33 minutes ago, Newfoundfreedom said: OK here we go. Drumroll please. Brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr. Ok that's enough! Bloody drummers! The asking price is 550 leva. Which is around 250 of the Great British Queens Pounds. The closest was @Rich Your prize is the knowledge that you're not living in the second hand instrument graveyard that is Bulgaria. I don't miss many things about the UK, but I do tend to watch the sale adds on here, and eBay with envious eyes. The price of second hand gear over there is far lower and a vastly better choice and quality. Right. I'm off for a vodka or six. A very happy new year to you all. ...... and to you too, have a good one. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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