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A triple One10 or upgrade to a couple of Two10's?

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I have two One 10s and a Four 10. Fantastic match with my Mesa 400+ and gives me heaps of options up to a Six 10 when I link the two One 10s in series. The Four 10 with the Mesa sounds absolutely huge, when I add  the two One 10s it still sounds huge and have not really needed that combo. With hindsight for my purposes a Four 10 and a One 10 would suffice, but the pair of One 10s turned up used and I grabbed them. The Four 10 is an easy schlep and great value imo.

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Another thing to realise regarding the eternal oddity of Barefaced 10s...

Say you have two generic drivers in a cab, of 8 ohms each. You have a choice of wiring them in parallel (4 ohms) or series (16 ohms).

You build a similar cab but with the 10" Barefaced speakers. The One10 is 8 ohms so we assume that is the rating for this speaker also. But this time our end results are either 4 ohms in parallel or 12 ohms in series. However in theory you would only be able to get 12 ohms total if the drivers were in fact 6 ohms each.

So it's likely that your One10 might actually be closer 6 ohms rather then 8. In any case, when trying to calculate your total load, try both values out and realise it might be somewhere in the middle!

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Yes, this has been dealt with in detail on the Talkbass thread. Alex did respond at one stage, IIRC along the lines that impedance varies with frequency ( no doubt I have this wrong as I am not a tech but that was the rough gist) and that it was safe to use the speakers as rated - which is obviously correct as I have not heard of any issues.

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On 04/01/2018 at 13:55, alexclaber said:

A badge that looks great both ways around would be amazing - not so easy to design one though!

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Me personally I wouldn’t be too bothered about the logo being sideways. I love the curves on the steel grill version in particular, I think it looks really smart. Be a shame to have to change the design for the sake of the logo.

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Sorry to bring this back up, but I too am considering adding a One10 to my setup.  @largo May I ask how you get/got on with your 3 One10 setup?

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I'd also be interested to hear a review.

I have 2 One10's and I slightly prefer their sound to my Two10 on it's own. I put that down to the filtering used on the Two10.

So, because of that, I'd always imagined 3 One10's would sound even better than my great sounding Two10 + One10 rig. I'd like to find out if that assumption is true.

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For me that's a starting point, how do you find the 210 + 110 combo compared to just the 210?

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9 hours ago, Kev said:

Sorry to bring this back up, but I too am considering adding a One10 to my setup.  @largo May I ask how you get/got on with your 3 One10 setup?

Me too, any updates?

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6 hours ago, Kev said:

For me that's a starting point, how do you find the 210 + 110 combo compared to just the 210?

Sorry, can't say, I've never run the Two10 on its own. I use 2 of them in my very loud band and they can easily beat any band into submission. I use Aguilar amps and so far I haven't found a bad sound in any Barefaced cab.

The 310 was an experiment with a smaller and lighter rig for the gigs I do at a normal volume. The sound of the 310 is very good, full and punchy, but the Two10 is still 28lbs! I just like the idea of multiple 15lb cabs.

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I did use a Two10 (8 12 ohm) + One10(8 ohm) in (loud!)rehearsals for a bit, but ended up just using the Two10 as it sounded like the One10 was being driven too hard in that combination; both cabs received the same amount of power, of course. If you are running at a lower volume  / power level that results in the One10 not being driver so hard (and also really sounding like it's being driven hard), then using both cabs might work, but for me I wasn't so keen on the sound. So now I use the cabs separately, and I also fitted the 4/8 ohm switchable kit that Bareface provided. The One10 is absolutely killer for something I can carry via tram or taxi - we have no car - and easily fills a rehearsal room or small cafe-sized gig room.

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incorrect Two10 ohmage

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You probably were driving the One10 harder than you thought. The Two10's are either 4 ohms or 12 ohms.

If you run the Two10 on 4 ohms and the the One10 at 8 ohms and your amp is good for 2.67 ohms then you have a balanced system.

Run the Two10 at 12 ohms and the One10 is taking more than it's fair share of the power.

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28 minutes ago, chris_b said:

Run the Two10 at 12 ohms and the One10 is taking more than it's fair share of the power.

I stand corrected, the Two10 was 12 ohms at that stage (before I installed the 12/4 switchable option).

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